From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sun Feb 23 20:34:27 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9E08247EB3 for ; Sun, 23 Feb 2020 20:34:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carpeddiem@gmail.com) Received: from mail-il1-f172.google.com (mail-il1-f172.google.com [209.85.166.172]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48QcPH4pq5z4H8F for ; Sun, 23 Feb 2020 20:34:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carpeddiem@gmail.com) Received: by mail-il1-f172.google.com with SMTP id p8so6010970iln.12 for ; Sun, 23 Feb 2020 12:34:27 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=RzcofYAm0yjFBtbHZ7vM4u6O8o1aD7OVnBHZJNqamis=; b=LmrIXow3dRePltuwCAt3hb39j/XLAI3MEebzp7sohG2rkj5dvXSLqwwY5KYgeaAz3Q QNpdatfX9zna3Vt0HlFplw/rmocdputNTGe9hCQTRv+CL0TC3AYkD1hiKKNYgHZGkrCB X/CLreeMi6WfjiqS+/EtRHI4+tuS/8BLsEI+W2veN3EtTy/CuKbYXr49xSz/RLm1S4c/ 92jVR3Pcp5j9wohkxgBPR1LZtprUerjhA6PBVcMMyIU0GjOJOsNmXDaUDWNqn7TsVm98 p8nFD8VKJ9AAV7GKfMZZZFY8SjwPFDLk/k1jjm6w3InbryZD/3ntBh6W2uCoP2eE/o1a FXZg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVtXu+g0Pq8z1XEZGJStGC3TnTSrekMp3BVXK2x383YTeEgtSpZ +PzJ9PoGC7KVCs/ScOZ4MlseM6hhb1q/I+c3mArctiiq X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyqpKKDKjV++fha8JlvmdOaFA88m8tHBhpgh3GW63GGiltJJnaH5OXMUsueR/9aRAlANSKjCSJCd40exxnbm3I= X-Received: by 2002:a92:5cda:: with SMTP id d87mr55353968ilg.100.1582490065790; Sun, 23 Feb 2020 12:34:25 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20200217231452.717FA1E820@freefall.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: From: Ed Maste Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2020 15:34:13 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FreeBSD-Announce] FreeBSD 12.0 end-of-life To: freebsd-stable stable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48QcPH4pq5z4H8F X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.00 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0] X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2020 20:34:27 -0000 On Sun, 23 Feb 2020 at 12:48, Gerard E. Seibert wrote: > > Until they squash that bug, they should not be in a rush to push out > the door another defective model. Unfortunately complaining that there's a bug in 12.0 or 12.1 or providing additional reports of this will do nothing to help resolve the issue. I can suggest two ways folks can help get this resolved: build and test kernels (with guidance from interested developers) to bisect and identify the offending commit/test potential patches, or make a system available to willing developer(s).