From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 23 16:33:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21BC1B8 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 16:33:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adrian.chadd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-x22e.google.com (mail-wi0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::22e]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE2B11F62 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 16:33:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f174.google.com with SMTP id m6so6337707wiv.7 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 09:33:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=++ssEerwyPRue5rfeDqLQmLIyoRkYKGkcLpyxKahf4Q=; b=V79G3mP0mL6pxcmdG9dkd3BjQ101Cic8lTs4SHaB6NZnx1PwpARo9Wlvx5UWhueaAk d1ckcygMBWvXrKxF0iS+iPau0BR3V3BqC/y4klKi3Xo0Fna/FVGPnGF5jAq2DbtqMhnn BIjimAckJn+BxVm+1FdVHqAUwOcmuYfuTsMlrK7lAhEDTWRwFyAHQO0SP/y7vSma6eEg QFGj2pU8np9IscvC3cC/RvoBsptW+JQxt7dElnlsPLL76Ce4/d0cqBRDrt67slwK+pKT knFeV/fqmep/9ZxdeneSWGr/YztImO7VAgQMY5NPciKYaEwUPrLNwT89luPeYmbFMcP1 cmYg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.85.103 with SMTP id g7mr75909857wiz.23.1366734799930; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 09:33:19 -0700 (PDT) Sender: adrian.chadd@gmail.com Received: by 10.217.88.129 with HTTP; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 09:33:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20130423134953.GA64010@icarus.home.lan> References: <20130422051452.GA2148@icarus.home.lan> <51763BF9.2000506@FreeBSD.org> <20130423092602.GA58831@icarus.home.lan> <51765466.4040209@FreeBSD.org> <4D28DBAE46424C268AA22FCDD8657946@multiplay.co.uk> <20130423114722.GA61919@icarus.home.lan> <20130423125144.GA62949@icarus.home.lan> <20130423134953.GA64010@icarus.home.lan> Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 09:33:19 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: Itsi0gDOGV5CzDCy2imwvyOxbbA Message-ID: Subject: Re: ada(4) and ahci(4) quirk printing From: Adrian Chadd To: Jeremy Chadwick Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Tom Evans , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 16:33:21 -0000 .. are we really debating this? Stop calling them quirks. That sounds like something that won't mess up your actual runtime. It's not giving them enough "weight". They're more "device behaviours" or "device flags" or something. Print them out like that. I think that _not_ printing them out at boot time is insane. Doubly so if it could cause issues before you can actually run commands. So if it were me, I'd print out the device quirks like we print out CPU flags. Ie, all the time. Adrian