From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Mar 6 15:54:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from lariat.org (lariat.org [12.23.109.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BC3537B718 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 15:54:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brett@lariat.org) Received: from mustang.lariat.org (IDENT:ppp0.lariat.org@lariat.org [12.23.109.2]) by lariat.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA11727; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 16:53:48 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010306164606.046d4100@localhost> X-Sender: brett@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 16:53:41 -0700 To: Mike Meyer From: Brett Glass Subject: Re: Stallman stalls again Cc: Mike Meyer , Rahul Siddharthan , "Victor R. Cardona" , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <15013.18818.990246.193990@guru.mired.org> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20010306131533.046dfc60@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20010306122244.04477f00@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20010306092612.00b79f00@localhost> <20010305134937.K80474@lpt.ens.fr> <4.3.2.7.2.20010305114235.046da630@localhost> <20010305200017.D80474@lpt.ens.fr> <4.3.2.7.2.20010305123951.04604b20@localhost> <20010305205030.G80474@lpt.ens.fr> <4.3.2.7.2.20010305125259.00cfdae0@localhost> <20010305142108.A17269@marx.marvic.chum> <4.3.2.7.2.20010306011342.045fb360@localhost> <20010306081025.A22143@marx.marvic.chum> <4.3.2.7.2.20010306131533.046dfc60@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 01:33 PM 3/6/2001, Mike Meyer wrote: >Ethics - or lack thereof - are a mudslingers favorite target. I see: It follows, then, that if I point out unethical behavior, I am mudslinging? Bzzzt.... Sorry, non sequitur. > Saying that someone is acting out of hatred and malice in an era when hate crimes draw special punishments is mud-slinging of the vilest sort. Again, non sequitur. My reports of Stallman's attitudes and behavior are factually correct and verifiable by many sources. Richard Stallman has expressed his hatred and malice against anyone who profits from creative work -- in particular, from writing and selling software -- in many forums, and these traits have likewise been documented by many independent sources. Steven Levy's account is perhaps one of the best. Levy certainly doesn't hate Stallman. In fact, he expresses some sympathy for Stallman, whom he portrays -- accurately, I think -- as a pathetic figure saddled with a deep and enduring grudge and a monomaniacal desire for revenge. I strongly recommend his book. --Brett To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message