From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 26 23:54:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D98A106566C for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 23:54:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: from poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr [150.140.141.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 026D68FC14 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 23:54:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr (unknown [10.1.0.143]) by poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10100EB5E4B; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 02:54:46 +0300 (EEST) Received: from localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1C474509B; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 02:54:46 +0300 (EEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ceid.upatras.gr Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id esj65WIo15O2; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 02:54:46 +0300 (EEST) Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl28-228.kln.forthnet.gr [77.49.155.228]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA6F04503F; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 02:54:46 +0300 (EEST) Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n3QNsj1N028928; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 02:54:45 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n3QNshoi028927; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 02:54:43 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Polytropon References: <20090426001855.GA89151@owl.midgard.homeip.net> <87zle3mii0.fsf@kobe.laptop> <20090426194410.c00aaf73.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 02:54:43 +0300 In-Reply-To: <20090426194410.c00aaf73.freebsd@edvax.de> (Polytropon's message of "Sun, 26 Apr 2009 19:44:10 +0200") Message-ID: <87ab63j7i4.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.92 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List , Tim Judd Subject: Re: Modern FreeBSD Installer? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 23:54:48 -0000 On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 19:44:10 +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 20:28:55 +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >> I think this is a reasonable approach to the problem of which >> installation mode to launch. The default is `user friendly', [...] > > No, the default is GUI. That's a big difference because it entirely > depends on the user. Imagine a bline user. Is GUI user friendly for > him? No, because he has zero output on his Braille line. The installer > does something and he doesn't even notice. [...] > You have 30 seconds to make a selection. If no selection > is made, the text mode installer (fail-safe mode) will > be launched. This is a reasonable choice too. I wasn't very clear but I tend to favor text mode installations. This is also why I used quotes around `user friendly'. My main point was that if there *is* a GUI installer, it should only _one_ of the options, and text-mode installation should remain with us for all users who want it (including me).