From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Jul 2 12:03:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA00830 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 12:03:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA00825 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 12:03:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id MAA08635; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 12:02:23 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199607021902.MAA08635@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Spam lists To: batie@agora.rdrop.com (Alan Batie) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 12:02:23 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-hackers@freefall.freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Alan Batie" at Jul 1, 96 09:39:23 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > How about a "companies who have spammed our lists" area on the WWW > > page so we can know who not to buy from? > > See http://www.ip.net/BL/blacklist.html for a more comprehensive listing, > and a place to add such to... 1) It should be readily available to FreeBSD users in particular. 2) We should not condemn those which have not spammed our lists, only those which have. 3) I am less likely to look through a page with a "blacklist" on it that is unrelated to FreeBSD. I don't care if people spam where I can't see it. 4) Blacklists are tehnically illegal. I was only calling for a "people who have spammed our lists" list, and the "we" was the royal "we" -- I won't buy from them, and I will advise my friends not to buy from them, but it would not be a good idea to advise people not to buy from them on the WWW page, since that could be legally construed as restraint of trade. A list of spammers has no such provable negative connotations; I may be a wierdo who will buy from them because they have taken notice of FreeBSD, and bad publicity is better than none (for example). "We've been spammed! We're SOMEBODY!". I have no desire to engage of "http://www.ip.net/BL/blacklist.html" style restraint of trade tactics, only notification of list spamming, where the lists constitute a "select group"... which is perfectly legal, if all you do is identify what they did, and not what you recommend people do about it. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers.