From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Sep 7 22:50:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA09027 for hackers-outgoing; Sun, 7 Sep 1997 22:50:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA09022 for ; Sun, 7 Sep 1997 22:50:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id HAA00419; Mon, 8 Sep 1997 07:50:45 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.7/8.8.5) id HAA15962; Mon, 8 Sep 1997 07:25:30 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19970908072530.ZD14625@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Mon, 8 Sep 1997 07:25:30 +0200 From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) To: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: jamil@counterintelligence.ml.org (Jamil J. Weatherbee) Subject: Re: i refuse to spend the $$$ References: X-Mailer: Mutt 0.60_p2-3,5,8-9 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: ; from Jamil J. Weatherbee on Sep 7, 1997 15:28:14 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Jamil J. Weatherbee wrote: > There is no good reason in the world I should have to go out and spend > $400+ dollars on a 2940 and scsi cdrom just so I can digitally pull a > couple tracks off of a cdrom, There is no good reason why you need to spend that much. Nobody told you that it *must* be a 2940. Pick a < USD 100 NCR SymBios controller. Ask Amancio about the quality of CD-ROM drives, and you'll be surprised to learn that even in the SCSI world, only the best of them are really high-quality enough for digital audio reading. Forget about the low-end drives at all, if CD-DA is your desire. > therefore I am requesting that someone point > me towards info (i guess ioctls) i need to get tracks off an atapi cdrom > --- I sure hope the atapi drivers support this? I sure know it does not. I sure know that CD-DA is not even standardized yet on SCSI, let alone ATA. Go and read the ATA specs. Then return to this list. I'm afraid you won't return, at least not if you've got the slightest understanding of standards documents... You'll be ROTFL after reading them. The ATA specs are the best joke of the computer world i've read lately. After this reading, you're really starting to wondering why some of these IDE drives actually do work at all. (No joking.) -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-)