From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 24 11:36:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E01716A4CE for ; Wed, 24 Mar 2004 11:36:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from archangel.daleco.biz (unknown [69.27.131.0]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1742743D2D for ; Wed, 24 Mar 2004 11:36:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kadmin@archangel.daleco.biz) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])i2OJWfLH027528; Wed, 24 Mar 2004 13:32:41 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kadmin@archangel.daleco.biz) Received: from archangel.daleco.biz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (archangel.daleco.biz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 27419-01; Wed, 24 Mar 2004 13:32:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from archangel.daleco.biz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) i2OJWVU3027524; Wed, 24 Mar 2004 13:32:31 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kadmin@archangel.daleco.biz) Received: (from kadmin@localhost) by archangel.daleco.biz (8.12.10/8.12.9/Submit) id i2OJWUiS027523; Wed, 24 Mar 2004 13:32:30 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kadmin) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 13:32:30 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey To: "Gary W. Swearingen" Message-ID: <20040324193230.GA27341@archangel.daleco.biz> References: <000a01c41159$505ab560$6400a8c0@laptop> <20040324171235.GB25716@archangel.daleco.biz> <26ad263vhi.d26@mail.comcast.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <26ad263vhi.d26@mail.comcast.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at archangel.daleco.biz cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: total newbee questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 19:36:36 -0000 On Wed, Mar 24, 2004 at 11:17:45AM -0800, Gary W. Swearingen wrote: > Kevin Kinsey writes: > > You can avoid that pain without making / much bigger by installing the > editors/e3 port and moving /usr/local/bin/e3* to /bin/. You'll get > fair "vi", "emacs", "pico", "wordstar", and "nedit" emulators, all in > less than 13000 bytes. > > I'm sure ed(1) will be with us 'till the end, but I wish "e3" was also > included in the base i386 FreeBSD. Or even a bigger (but small) "vi" > editor clone that would work on all CPUs. There are several that seem > negligibly small compared to much of the other stuff I see in /*bin/. That does sound nice. However, I don't suppose it'll be done, for either licensing or historical reasons. [But who am I to say, of course ;-) --- I guess nothing stops me from doing it myself.... ] That's quite a bit smaller even than ee, or even ed! I may try e3 ... thanks for the pointer, or I may make it SOP to cp ee(1) to /bin when setting up boxes in the future; I do recall once upon a time being stranded with nothing but ed(1) on a disk that was pretty screwed up.... Kevin Kinsey