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Date:      Fri, 07 Sep 2001 00:06:02 +0200 (CEST)
From:      Salvo Bartolotta <bartequi@neomedia.it>
To:        Mike Meyer <mwm@mired.org>
Cc:        Mike Meyer <mwm@mired.org>, Ceri <ceri@techsupport.co.uk>, questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Good practice for /tmp
Message-ID:  <999813962.3b97f34a33366@webmail.neomedia.it>
In-Reply-To: <15255.61590.455896.440737@guru.mired.org>
References:  <999807502.3b97da0e9af9f@webmail.neomedia.it> <15255.61590.455896.440737@guru.mired.org>

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Scrive Mike Meyer <mwm@mired.org>:

> Salvo Bartolotta <bartequi@neomedia.it> types:
> > > An mfs is supposedly backed by swap. So if swap is on mfs, what's
> > > backing the mfs? Is the inverse of the dual the dual of the
> inverse?
> > > Where's the tylenol?
> > Hmm, the dual of a dual is isomorphic to the original space. :-)
> 
> But the dual of a graph may not be a graph.
> 
> > > Anyway, I agree with you. Putting swap on mfs or md seems sort of
> > > pointless. If the goal is to prevent people from reading sensitive
> > > information left on swap if the hardware is compromised - which is
> > > something security people do worry about - just configure the
> system
> > > without any swap.
> > I am probably missing something here. I seem to understand that even
> systems 
> > with a *large* amount of RAM [occasionally] make use of swap; in other
> words, 
> > the OS seems to be tuned to utilize swap, regardless of the amount of
> RAM 
> > present on the machine.
> 
> While it's certainly correct that the system runs better with swap - a
> minimum of 256MB is recommended by tuning(7) - that doesn't mean it
> absolutely has to have any swap at all.
> 
> > Enlightenment welcome :-)
> 
> During the install process, the system clearly runs without swap -
> which is one of the reasons you have to have more memory to install
> FreeBSD than you do to use it. The comments in LINT about the
> NO_SWAPPING option indicate that it's expected that a system can run
> that way.
> 
> If you believe pstat -s, I just booted and ran a system sans swap by
> the simple expedient bring it up single user, removing the swap
> partition from /etc/fstab, and then going multi-user. No problems -
> but I was careful not to do anything that would use lots of memory.
> 
>  <mike
> --
> Mike Meyer <mwm@mired.org>   http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/
> Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more
> information.
> 

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