From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 29 00:53:32 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2378716A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 00:53:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx.toxahost.ru (ns.toxahost.ru [62.89.204.62]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B133A43D2D for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 00:53:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from toxa@toxahost.ru) Received: from localhost (laptoxa.toxa.lan [192.168.1.3]) by mx.toxahost.ru (Toxa) with ESMTP id 6A56DF4 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 04:53:30 +0400 (MSD) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 04:53:19 +0400 From: Toxa To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Comment-To: "Anton A. Karpov" Message-ID: <20050429005319.GA17799@laptoxa.toxa.lan> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org References: <57436.216.177.243.42.1114582155.localmail@webmail.dnswatch.com> <426FDE69.8090909@samsco.org> <426FE1EA.7020900@kutulu.org> <20050428105348.GA8056@laptoxa.toxa.lan> <4270E7F1.9010502@kutulu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4270E7F1.9010502@kutulu.org> User-Agent: Outluck Express 1.5.6i for MS-DOS 6.22-SMP X-Mailer: See User-Agent above :) X-Operating-System: MS-DOS 6.22-CURRENT on Sony VAIO laptop X-PGP-Public-Key: http://toxahost.ru/gpg/pubkey.asc X-Useless-Header: Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? Subject: Re: boot banner project X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 00:53:32 -0000 On Thu, Apr 28, 2005 at 09:41:05AM -0400, Mike Edenfield wrote: > > 1) It is far from a stupid idea if even one person honestly feels it > would be a benefit. No need to be abusive about it. Yes, I have to mention this was only my humble opinion. > > 2) If I were to choose to work on FreeBSD, I would be free to work on > whatever I felt was lacking. That's how it works. Especially given > that I have nowhere near enough skill in C to work on more complex > system-level issues. Yes, you can do whatewer you want. But what about the result? I think several hundreds lines of lolypop-boot-related code will definitively NOT bring FreeBSD more cleaness and design simpleness. And that's everyone likes in BSDs! > > 3) I was merely making suggestions as to what alternatives were > available. Since almost every Linux distro does something similar to > this proposal, there is obviously SOME merit to it; the benefit may be > miniscule, or irrelevant to many people, but it still exists. > See my opinion above. It's a bad, BAD style, to add features till then they're really necessary and desirable. IMHO.