From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 4 01:21:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ACA61065672; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 01:21:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marka@isc.org) Received: from mx.ams1.isc.org (mx.ams1.isc.org [IPv6:2001:500:60::65]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BB858FC17; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 01:21:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bikeshed.isc.org (bikeshed.isc.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:3:d::19]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.isc.org", Issuer "RapidSSL CA" (not verified)) by mx.ams1.isc.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 083DF5F9996; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 01:21:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marka@isc.org) Received: from drugs.dv.isc.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:1f00:820:11c3:b721:6977:1aa6]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by bikeshed.isc.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 38192216C33; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 01:21:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marka@isc.org) Received: from drugs.dv.isc.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by drugs.dv.isc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C53D2136272; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 11:21:18 +1000 (EST) To: Erich From: Mark Andrews References: <2156532.vx6SHRoqL8@x220.ovitrap.com> <4FCBE2E2.6080109@FreeBSD.org> <7199276.kar7U8DLF4@x220.ovitrap.com> In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 04 Jun 2012 07:49:02 +0700." <7199276.kar7U8DLF4@x220.ovitrap.com> Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 11:21:17 +1000 Message-Id: <20120604012118.3C53D2136272@drugs.dv.isc.org> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on mx.ams1.isc.org Cc: Doug Barton , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Chris Rees , Chris Nehren Subject: Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 01:21:48 -0000 In message <7199276.kar7U8DLF4@x220.ovitrap.com>, Erich writes: > Hi, > > On 03 June 2012 PM 3:19:14 Doug Barton wrote: > > On 06/03/2012 05:43, Erich wrote: > > > it is new to me that Microsoft asks for a Windows update when a new > > > Office version appears at the scene. > > > > Actually it's very common for Windows applications to specify a minimum > > OS service pack level. To stretch the analogy a bit, you're also not > > going to find any modern Windows application that will run on Windows > > 98, for example. > > > can you still install the ports tree and its applications on a FreeBSD 4.4? The ports system was deliberately broken once support for FreeBSD 4.x was dropped. You need a more up-to-date make than that which ships with FreeBSD 4.x and some other tools to be upgraded all of which were in FreeBSD 5.x. If someone had added a compatible make to ports and a couple of other tools used by the ports sub-system itself, those that wanted to continue using FreeBSD 4.x with ports could of. Instead the whole ports framework was updated to use incompatible Makefiles and tools without providing the necessary tools. It's not like make from FreeBSD 5.x or even FreeBSD 8.x doesn't compile on FreeBSD 4.x. Mark -- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: marka@isc.org