From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 28 19:54:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B00C616A4DD for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2006 19:54:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD34A43D5A for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2006 19:54:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A605B291B19 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2006 16:54:21 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 80729-07 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2006 16:54:23 -0300 (ADT) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-224-179-167.eastlink.ca [24.224.179.167]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2DC4290C6D for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2006 16:54:20 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1027) id DD0E05D111; Fri, 28 Jul 2006 16:54:23 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6F755CFC6 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2006 16:54:23 -0300 (ADT) Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 16:54:23 -0300 (ADT) From: User Freebsd To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060728164526.E27679@ganymede.hub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 19:54:39 -0000 Okay, here is the challenge ... for vendors to 'take notice' of the fact that exist as a market, there really needs to be *some* numbers that ppl like -core, -advocacy and -marketing can use ... right now, there is nothing out there that can be considered either 'half the story', or just purely guess work ... This means that when someone here talks about "don't buy from company A because they don't support us", its kind of a meaningless boycott, since, as far as they are concerned, they aren't making any money off us, therefore, aren't losing any ... Although I'd eventually like to see something better that includes more information (ie. version of FreeBSD being run, AMD vs Intel, etc), even just getting #s on the size of the community that we are apart of would be good .... Also, for the data to *mean* anything, it has to be semi-realtime, in that it can't just be sent in once, but a ping has to be sent in periodically to show that that server *is*, in fact, actually still running FreeBSD ... Towards that end, as a starter, I would like to encourage everyone out there running 1 or more FreeBSD boxes to go to http://www.mreriksson.net/uptimes register all of your hosts, and install /usr/ports/sysutils/uptimec and get it running ... Right now, there are 249 FreeBSD hosts listed ... I can't believe that that is *all* of them out there ... We don't care about the uptime side of things ... all we care about is finding out how many FreeBSD hosts are actually being run ... how big are we as a market ... I'm currently trying to come up with something better, but, right now, that seems to be the best that is out there ... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664