From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Oct 25 14:51:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA25671 for stable-outgoing; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 14:51:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable) Received: from out2.ibm.net (out2.ibm.net [165.87.194.229]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA25664 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 14:51:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mouth@ibm.net) Received: from slip129-37-195-101.nc.us.ibm.net (slip129-37-195-101.nc.us.ibm.net [129.37.195.101]) by out2.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id VAA178276 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 21:51:40 GMT From: mouth@ibm.net (John Kelly) To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Please don't hurry Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 21:53:03 GMT Message-ID: <345260f6.1453370@smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net> References: <199710250440.VAA12327@hub.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <199710250440.VAA12327@hub.freebsd.org> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.01/16.397 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id OAA25665 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 24 Oct 1997 21:40:01 -0700 (PDT), "Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote: > That's what I'll probably do. When I checked into this, I realized > that the ports team neglected to provide a version of the lynx package > which matched the ports collection version this time around and hence > it's missing from the INDEX, leading to its not being listed there at > all in sysinstall's package installer menu. :-( > > Oh well! > > Jordan May I make some suggestions for 2.2.6? Use a longer beta cycle with new SNAPs cut weekly instead of daily, and run that for seven to ten weeks. I think many people like myself who are not closely involved with development don't have time to do any testing when the SNAPs are cut daily for only a couple of weeks. Once you have a really good SNAP, cut a small production run CD set and sell these to people who want to test out the new release. Do at least two of these, maybe even three or four, extending the beta cycle to a much larger testing audience. I would readily pay $30 or so to pre-subscribe to the beta CDs in the hope of helping refine the 2.2.X series for a classic final release. If several hundred users would pre-subscrible for them, you should be able to cover the cost of producing and mailing them. When you finally have a CD set that needs no more changes, go with that one, unchanged, as the real production release. Under no circumstances should you make any changes, even trivial ones, between the final beta CD and the real production run. The risk of new bugs introduced by last minute changes is too great. I realize this suggestion would extend the beta cycle to three or four months, perhaps unheard of for FreeBSD, but I would like to see the final 2.2.X release as near to perfect as possible because it might be a long time before I'm ready for anything in the 3.X series, even after it goes stable. While it's true that I can always CVSup fixes if the CD has bugs, if you have a pack of production machines to install and maintain, it sure is nice to just stick the CD in the drive, install, and be done with it. John