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Date:      Sun, 24 Nov 2019 23:02:41 +0700
From:      Victor Sudakov <vas@sibptus.ru>
To:        freebsd-net@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Several hosts behind a caching resolver
Message-ID:  <20191124160241.GA17008@admin.sibptus.ru>
In-Reply-To: <d726b6af-f731-ae36-9407-87e740ba5a0c@grosbein.net>
References:  <20191124123451.GA6593@admin.sibptus.ru> <d726b6af-f731-ae36-9407-87e740ba5a0c@grosbein.net>

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Eugene Grosbein wrote:
> > 
> > Several hosts of the local network use a FreeBSD server with BIND or
> > local-unbound as a caching resolver. Let's call it "Resolver A."
> > Resolver A forwards all queries to another resolver, e.g. 8.8.8.8 or
> > some other, let's call it "Resolver B."
> > 
> > Can the operator of Resolver B figure out how many clients there are
> > behind Resolver A, or obtain any other information about the hosts on
> > the said local network (like their operating system etc)? In other
> > words, does Resolver A effectively anonymize the queries, or is some
> > information about the internal network leaking?
> 
> No anonymization via unencrypted DNS.
> 
> The query itself reveals most data about clients. Windows OSes send queries
> for MS-specific domains periodically, Android for its domains,
> FreeBSD for pkg.freebsd.org or svn.freebsd.org etc.

This is a good point.

> 
> If a there are multiple recursive queries for both of MS/Androis/MacOS-specific domains,
> this means there are many clients behind this local resolver.

If there are multiple recursive queries for MS domains only, do you think
the operator of Resolver B can tell if there are 10 or 100 MS clients
behind Resolver A? 

-- 
Victor Sudakov,  VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN
2:5005/49@fidonet http://vas.tomsk.ru/

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