From owner-freebsd-current Tue Dec 19 07:37:10 1995 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA16993 for current-outgoing; Tue, 19 Dec 1995 07:37:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from robin.mcnc.org.mcnc.org (robin.mcnc.org [128.109.130.29]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA16977 Tue, 19 Dec 1995 07:37:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by robin.mcnc.org.mcnc.org (8.6.9/MCNC/8-10-92) id KAA02797; Tue, 19 Dec 1995 10:35:26 -0500 for Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 10:35:26 -0500 From: "Frank E. Terhaar-Yonkers" Message-Id: <199512191535.KAA02797@robin.mcnc.org.mcnc.org> To: jkh@time.cdrom.com Subject: Re: ppp Cc: FreeBSD-current@FreeBSD.org, jmb@FreeBSD.org, p.richards@elsevier.co.uk X-Face: ,fjtWiMPydUaSQl%8[eTg`u:^BXt&T)Sny(6w\*U"5D9H[Z$kG%Q/z;Z=NwrPiXf-aMF3R) Rsand$,]26-8>5@HD(A3A79gN|0%NHsdek4mT8E,>j+\w!~d2#nH;~NV!5a0"`5$Cj8d\or(Jy/JQ_ |uc;C[filmZ(~#lre*l:|O%d/PJFy`.5w8)sMZ-)QI3TaV"j'k Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk It isn't panicing. It just gets wedged. I did get into DDB 'cause I happened to be at a non-X virtual console. I'm sorry that I don't have enuf experience with ddb (and the kernel wasn't config'd with -g) to get much info. I did force a panic and saved the dump. If you think it's worth looking at. I can set up an account on my box or ftp the dump somewhere. - Frank >Maybe what has to happen first is you need to figure out a way of >causing ppp to kill your system *without* running X, e.g. so that >we can get into ddb and see what's panicing! > > Jordan > >> This is bogus. The phone lines to my house are so crappy that I regularly >> have to kill ijppp and restart it. I don't want to have to kill all the X >> stuff as well, before I restart PPP. Running ijppp and X has been a >> crap shoot. About 1/4 the time, killing ppp locks up the system. >> >> What's the problem and why can't we fix it? >> >> - Frank >> >> >> >In reply to Jonathan M. Bresler who said >> >> >> >> On Mon, 18 Dec 1995, Paul Richards wrote: >> >> >> >> > Killing ppp also has the side-effect of killing the X server. This make >s >> >> > it a real pain to use. >> >> >> >> OUCH! >> >> watch out for the "delete ALL" in /etc/ppp/ppp.conf. it works for me usi >ng >> >> the following: >> > >> >I will, that'd probably be the problem if it is there. >> > >> >> Aspen:[7] tail /etc/rc.local >> >> # >> >> /usr/sbin/ppp -auto atinc >> >> /sbin/ping -c 10 198.138.38.21 >> >> >> >> >> >> # X11 server >> >> if [ -x /usr/X11/bin/xdm ]; then >> >> echo -n ' xdm'; (sleep 5 ; /usr/X11/bin/xdm) & >> >> fi >> >> >> >> the ping gets ppp to dial and set up the routes BEFORE xdm gets started, >> >> else my /etc/ppp/ppp.{conf,linkup} took X down when it reconfiged the rou >tes >> > >> >Good idea, sounds like this is exactly what's happening. >> > >> >-- >> > Paul Richards. Originative Solutions Ltd. >> > Internet: paul@netcraft.co.uk, http://www.netcraft.co.uk >> > Phone: 0370 462071 (Mobile), +44 1225 447500 (work) >> > >> >> \\\\////\\\\////\\\\\////\\\\\////\\\\////\\\\////\\\\////\\\\////\\\\////\\\ >\ >> Frank Terhaar-Yonkers >> High Performance Computing and Communications Research >> MCNC >> PO Box 12889 3021 Cornwallis Road >> Research Triangle Park, North Carolina 27709-2889 >> fty@mcnc.org voice (919)248-1417 FAX (919)248-1455 >> >> http://www.mcnc.org/hpcc.html > \\\\////\\\\////\\\\\////\\\\\////\\\\////\\\\////\\\\////\\\\////\\\\////\\\\ Frank Terhaar-Yonkers High Performance Computing and Communications Research MCNC PO Box 12889 3021 Cornwallis Road Research Triangle Park, North Carolina 27709-2889 fty@mcnc.org voice (919)248-1417 FAX (919)248-1455 http://www.mcnc.org/hpcc.html