From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 1 01:06:24 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE7D51065672 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 01:06:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from corky1951@comcast.net) Received: from qmta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AA788FC1F for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 01:06:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta23.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.74]) by qmta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ncGA1d0071c6gX851d6Q2F; Mon, 01 Mar 2010 01:06:24 +0000 Received: from comcast.net ([98.203.142.76]) by omta23.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id nd8Y1d00K1f6R9u3jd8ZK0; Mon, 01 Mar 2010 01:08:34 +0000 Received: by comcast.net (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 28 Feb 2010 17:06:21 -0800 Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 17:06:21 -0800 From: Charlie Kester To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100301010620.GB2894@comcast.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org References: <4B8ABAB3.1060003@gamozo.org> <20100228185353.GA4307@apollo.podro.com> <201003010026.RAA21457@lariat.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201003010026.RAA21457@lariat.net> X-Mailer: Mutt 1.5.20 X-Composer: VIM 7.2 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Subject: Re: FreeBSD Popularity X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 01:06:24 -0000 On Sun 28 Feb 2010 at 16:26:46 PST Brett Glass wrote: >At 11:53 AM 2/28/2010, Jamie wrote: > >> In BSD (DragonflyBSD,FreeBSD,OpenBSD) there is a real attitude >> problem, the idea seems to be "GNU sucks and you should use BSD >> alternatives". > >The problem is with the licensing. Those of us who are professional >developers and develop commercial software cannot safely inspect >GPLed code for legal reasons. This is why I and many other developers >favor a completely BSD-licensed solution. No, it's more than the GPL licensing, although that's bad enough. GNU software is often bloated. Way too many commandline switches (using an overly verbose syntax). Feature creep everywhere, not just on the commandline. It runs counter to the basic Unix philosophy of small, cooperating programs, each doing one thing and doing it well. If you don't understand that there's an aesthetic aspect to Unix, you'll miss what a lot of people are complaining about with GNUish stuff.