From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Mar 6 2:32:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.primary.net (mail.primary.net [205.242.92.236]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CAB8151A9 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 1999 02:31:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhonold@primary.net) Received: from justin (pn15-ppp-156.primary.net [208.19.232.156]) by mail.primary.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/+primary) with SMTP id EAA17274 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 1999 04:30:33 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000301be67bd$7342f380$0201a8c0@justin.freebsd> Reply-To: "justin honold" From: "justin honold" To: "questions" Subject: riddle me this Date: Sat, 6 Mar 1999 04:37:29 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG i live in the st louis metropolitan area, and we have cable internet service available to us. i would prefer to use dsl for many reasons, but unfortunately it won't be available here for some time. our current solution is not bidirectional -- it uses modem for the uplink and 3com's cable modem vsp for downlink. this product only has (and probably only will) a driver for win9x. they actively discourage use of proxy servers, and go so far as to check for the standard ones via tcp requests (eg wingate, sygate, etc). i have proven wingate to work on a number of clients' machines, but i'm concerned with win9x's security (eg getting locked up because i decided to use irc), and i want to be able to provide services if i see fit, even if it's only with a modem uplink. i want freebsd. my question is this: assuming that the 3com drivers will be able to detect connections/disconnections using a ppp -aliased connection, would i be able to hack my way through nat to get a sitation like this? [1] freebsd has the modem, maintains the internet connection, and shares it via ppp -alias (or nat if necessary) [2] win9x has the cable modem and runs wingate as a proxy server [3] freebsd uses win9x as a gateway so it can download using cable i'm relatively sure (drivers willing) that i could ppp -alias the modem connection and use wingate to serve my lan, but that would leave my freebsd box without a fast downlink. would there be a way i could tell freebsd to use win9x's gateway to download, but not to upload? if i pull this off, there's no way charter would be able to detect any services running, because i could just shut them off (currently my only open port is 23, and i could move that to a high-range port that probably wouldn't be scanned). i don't feel particularly guilty about doing this because they're using a win9x-only solution, they don't provide services for proxy servers even if you offer to pay extra, and the hidden costs are a mess ($100 for installation on a win9x machine, which HAS to be done -- this despite the fact that i have istalled these devices on miscellaneous sites and helped them resolve driver issues via troubleshooting), they force you to get cable television (which i don't care about, and REALLY won't care about when i get a fast connection), they force you to lease the crappy cable modem, etc. this could be a fun project for me. what do you think? :D To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message