From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Apr 10 18:09:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA02951 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 18:09:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA02704 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 18:08:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA19828; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 10:38:46 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id KAA09049; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 10:38:45 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Message-ID: <19980411103845.40439@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 10:38:45 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Mark Mayo , kris@airnet.net, David Shanes Cc: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" References: <007501bd64a4$85095f40$1d43a8c0@shanes.personalogic.com> <352E61A7.570D84C@ninbox.ml.org> <19980410150331.16376@vmunix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <19980410150331.16376@vmunix.com>; from Mark Mayo on Fri, Apr 10, 1998 at 03:03:31PM -0400 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 10 April 1998 at 15:03:31 -0400, Mark Mayo wrote: > On Fri, Apr 10, 1998 at 01:15:03PM -0500, Kris Kirby wrote: > For those interested, the arguments that worked best for me (note that > this is for getting CS departments to embrace FreeBSD) : > > 1. Pedigree. History. FreeBSD is the product of the CSRG at Berkeley. > Its roots are in academia, and we should be continuing that tradition. > > 2. Documentation. The Design and Implementation of 4.4BSD book. The ORA > BSD document set (PSD, USD, etc.). The literally hundreds of USENIX > and IEEE research papers presented on BSD related design, etc.. > Superior man pages for system calls. It's hard for a pedagogically > oriented prof to argue when you slap about 5000 pages of BSD docs > on his desk and demand that he produce the same for Linux. > > 3. Technical issues. NFS was written on BSD. The Athena project. Departments > all over the world have used BSD in the past because is was designed > with their labs, classrooms, and so on in mind. NFS in Linux sucks the > willy. You're going to have problems with NFS and Linux in a large > environment like a typical CS department. Fill in the blank here, we all > know umpteen reasons why FreeBSD outperforms, outshines, or outwhatvers > Linux. Wait for Linux labs to break, and rub it in their face. As > mentioned previously, nice guys finish last in marketig - without > exception. I'm surprised that you haven't mentioned the biggest buzzword associated with BSD: the Internet. Most of these other terms are things that only techies have heard of. *Everybody* has heard of the Internet, which is more than you can say of Linux. Look at the title of this thread. Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message