From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 23 18:40:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77D5E95C for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2013 18:40:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from caldwelljohn44@yahoo.com) Received: from nm12-vm5.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm12-vm5.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.136.218.204]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 41C0E7AB for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2013 18:40:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.137.12.189] by nm12.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Jan 2013 18:38:37 -0000 Received: from [98.137.12.198] by tm10.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Jan 2013 18:38:37 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1006.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Jan 2013 18:38:37 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 151003.46450.bm@omp1006.mail.gq1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 34140 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Jan 2013 18:38:37 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1358966316; bh=17Ki+Wfu7EwuHytlZAGRKY1e/wJplo1/6sT+jWnfJok=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=sWbg2u0OIsxq+PKKu/DT3DsH7+TXZzSGIKhiNt3ZTTUGf9TLWVebQ3/5XDkhFktXmPihOH6growKfK2p3vTmr0KgXyJhVeR4z8adz+5xCRZ4v+tKPdBEkTWfHuMi1nh4l389fupA4un2Y9offkH7kpm+tYTBxJo4pvdPI33em7Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=UlCK0mK1Re2g5jjy0YWvIyl/LItof/liBqRs71a6q/ybVoUMlNyX2w5SONbG7wlpj3ncFrz7ZvJf5ZoWc2YEtlj3jXTiQkpAKVZ8pkRbXi765x8agGWZCaj9vd0/b9HiU+qn9qupsvcovyNFhcX88zzpoABQZui71XPOFwofdn4=; X-YMail-OSG: nYQec4QVM1mvpbB8fxGS5tPuocLzZLx__79zqSjbvqIWFnE 2rGyNpt.6u1Kjr6Ve2WZXcE7x_Q87feJdvcUHI.mPGTiAu_lBaqemTxrQt4a p227xDpnUZdsQ4x7pYYsJi6cXgPPawShP5ziv1u8ud2wqiQGEcXWzjxKtAdP zs.ep26HisREugHV0jXbZSxdxeKOjQvTZH0PfgkWYQweX3NEZDBSbZotjjTJ _E0Qg9.LPR5olbA5yimfuAStNigiB0ODwlQOJRe792USFvhrJvljKvuG_V7h x7tMPn_0E3TsHCpuO1nSJ.J1r.C_e_S.._E5CLO8swwWBC8vj73lMoX9.bY6 aFLxUv_sN8Vp0kiVSnRHC1mBP9pkOSPIbbhWDzh9epAQxQ7cBvHxs6VZPrgk osrAX.X0bOCZFSywBWk3aGKBFTAwjimIGHldl4gS6qyy3Yxt7HIDhAxHwRQ4 TRRHxUaLtF4qm Received: from [108.50.132.142] by web163804.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 23 Jan 2013 10:38:36 PST X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001, RnJvbTogUmFsZiBNYXJkb3JmIDxyYWxmLm1hcmRvcmZAcm9ja2V0bWFpbC5jb20.CgoKT24gV2VkLCAyMyBKYW4gMjAxMyAxOToxMzo1NSArMDEwMCwgUmFsZiBNYXJkb3JmIDxyYWxmLm1hcmRvcmZAcm9ja2V0bWFpbC5jb20.IHdyb3RlOgo.IFJlYnVpbGQgZ25vbWUtc2V0dGluZ3MtZGFlbW9uIGFuZCBkaXNhYmxlIHB1bHNlYXVkaW8uIFRoZW9yZXRpY2FsbHkgaXQncyBwb3NzaWJsZSB0byBkaXNhYmxlIHB1bHNlYXVkaW8sIGJ1dCB0aGlzIGRvZXNuJ3Qgd29yayBmb3IgYWxsIHZlcnNpb25zIGFzIGV4cGUBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.130.494 References: <1358923550.68557.YahooMailNeo@web163806.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <1358963845.36175.YahooMailNeo@web163806.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1358966316.33320.YahooMailNeo@web163804.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 10:38:36 -0800 (PST) From: John Caldwell Subject: Re: Waiting for sound system to respond To: Ralf Mardorf , "freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: John Caldwell List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 18:40:43 -0000 From: Ralf Mardorf =0A=0A=0AOn Wed, 23 Jan 201= 3 19:13:55 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:=0A> Reb= uild gnome-settings-daemon and disable pulseaudio. Theoretically it's possi= ble to disable pulseaudio, but this doesn't work for all versions as expect= ed.=0A=0ASorry for my broken English.=0A=0ABy theory it's possible to disab= le an installed pulseaudio.=0A=0ABut it's better to build gnome-settings-da= emon with pulseaudio disabled.=0A=0A;)=0A__________________________________= _____________=0A=0AHi Ralf, thanks a lot for your warm help.=A0 I already r= ebuilt all the following including gnome-settings-daemon, after doing "make= config" on each of them making sure any pulseaudio is unchecked.=A0 But wh= en trying to pkg_delete pulseaudio it still said the same dependency on the= m so I still can't pkg_delete pulseaudio.=0A=0Agnome2=0Agnome-appletes=0Agn= ome-control-center=0Agnome-media=0Agnome-session=0Agnome-settings-daemon=0A= deskbar-applet=0A=0AMay I know your FreeBSD version and do you use gnome2 o= r what desktop you use?=A0 I feel it has becomes harder to use oss etc with= newer versions of FreeBSD.=A0 If you also use FreeBSD 9.1 and can run with= out pulseaudio that would be very inspirational to me!=0A From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 23 20:36:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC74B1D9 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2013 20:36:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stuartb@4gh.net) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B495DD4 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2013 20:36:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr16.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.36]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 23 Jan 2013 15:36:10 -0500 Received: from smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.104]) by mr16.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 4.3.4-GA) with ESMTP id CEZ04242; Wed, 23 Jan 2013 15:36:09 -0500 X-Auth-ID: stuartb.4gh@starpower.net Received: from unknown (HELO freeman.4gh.net) ([208.58.7.81]) by smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 23 Jan 2013 15:36:09 -0500 Received: by freeman.4gh.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 14822130DE5; Wed, 23 Jan 2013 15:36:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freeman.4gh.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A5F6130CEC; Wed, 23 Jan 2013 15:36:09 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 15:36:08 -0500 (EST) From: Stuart Barkley To: Ralf Mardorf Subject: Re: FreeBSD and snd_hdspe last-ditch attempt In-Reply-To: <20130123144008.A62930@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Message-ID: References: <20130123144008.A62930@sola.nimnet.asn.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 20:36:18 -0000 On Tue, 22 Jan 2013 at 23:25 -0000, Ian Smith wrote: > I've been following this saga for a while, with interest but no > specific knowledge of your gear nor how you intend to use it. Likewise, I've been watching this (but not real closely), and can't add much to help. I do live sound and someday would like to try some multichannel recording. The most I currently do is take a stereo board mix into a Linux netbook either to record or just to see real-time spectrum information. I mostly use FreeBSD on servers located in other rooms. In fact, for one of your problems, I wanted to try something on one server and realized that I never even connected speakers after the last hardware upgrade. One basic question that you might have already answered is what is your goal. Are you mostly interested in playing sounds to outputs or are you ultimately going to want to record/process input sounds? Sound output is often easier (and better debugged) than sound input and is an important first step. You need to get something simple working for output first (playing a file with audacious, mpd, vlc, opera). It doesn't matter too much which application. I tend to use audacious for real things, but just use mpg123 for test purposes, 'play' from sox is also useful. Is appears that you do have sound output working (as above) on two outputs of your device. Is that two stereo pairs (pcm0/line and pcm1/phone) or just one stereo pair? I don't know much about jack and midi, but am interested in what you can put together and get working. I like BSD and it's my server OS of choice. I'm curious where your interest in BSD originates, since you appear to have had some luck with Linux. I hope to see you continue with this project and hope you have success. Stuart Barkley -- I've never been lost; I was once bewildered for three days, but never lost! -- Daniel Boone