From owner-freebsd-arch Thu Nov 9 14:35:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (adsl-63-206-90-77.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.206.90.77]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0BC937B479 for ; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 14:35:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.0/8.11.1) with ESMTP id eA9Meu903694; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 14:40:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from msmith@mass.osd.bsdi.com) Message-Id: <200011092240.eA9Meu903694@mass.osd.bsdi.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Alfred Perlstein Cc: Matt Dillon , Peter Wemm , Warner Losh , arch@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The shared /bin and /sbin bikeshed In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 09 Nov 2000 11:23:28 PST." <20001109112328.T5112@fw.wintelcom.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 14:40:56 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > * Matt Dillon [001109 11:11] wrote: > > > > I'd recommend against the linux /lib + /usr/lib model, it's a big > > mess. I don't see much of a point in cutting the size of /bin and > > /sbin down, they are already fairly small (3.8M and 10M) and it > > isn't as though we need the disk space! The static nature of > > /bin and /sbin have saved me more times then I can remember. I also > > have unfond memories of blowing /lib up under linux and not being > > able to do anything. > > root on a Linux box is unable to do squat when the machine is almost > out of memory because he can't map in /lib/libc.so to run 'ps' or > even another copy of bash. Um. And root on a BSD box is equally screwed when there's no memory left to map in the text segment of 'ps' which just happens to contain another copy of libc. The difference being that if libc is shared, it's already mapped in for the hundreds of other programs using it, so you're *better* off, not worse. -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] V I C T O R Y N O T V E N G E A N C E To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message