From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 7 16:57:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1982216A41F for ; Sat, 7 Jan 2006 16:57:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from glenn@antimatter.net) Received: from cobalt.antimatter.net (cobalt.antimatter.net [69.55.224.239]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAFE643D46 for ; Sat, 7 Jan 2006 16:57:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from glenn@antimatter.net) Received: from glenn-mobile.antimatter.net (cpe-66-91-227-82.san.res.rr.com [66.91.227.82]) (authenticated bits=0) by cobalt.antimatter.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k07Gvvst031351 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 7 Jan 2006 08:57:58 -0800 X-MailKey: purple frogs are falling from the sky Message-Id: <6.2.3.4.2.20060107083947.035b0d40@cobalt.antimatter.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.3.4 Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2006 08:57:08 -0800 To: Alistar Erlas , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Glenn Dawson In-Reply-To: <20060107160432.92136.qmail@web36912.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060107160432.92136.qmail@web36912.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Subject: Re: Enabling atapi-cam and other kernel features X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2006 16:57:59 -0000 At 08:04 AM 1/7/2006, Alistar Erlas wrote: >Recently, I read in the FreeBSD handbook, that in >order to use the atapi-cam support, it has to be >compiled into the kernel. Why not include the >atapi-cam support in a module that can simply be >loaded by the user without rebooting the machine? test60# ls -l /boot/kernel/atapicam.ko -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 16892 Dec 31 00:21 /boot/kernel/atapicam.ko > It >seems like it would be much eisier and less of a >hassle that way. It seems like recompiling the kernel >(I have done it before) is an awful lot of work How is it a lot of work? All you have to do is=20 edit your kernel config, cd to /usr/src and do make buildkernel= installkernel > just >to be able to use some features of the DVD drive which >most new computers have these days. The user should be >able to add new hardware support to the kernel and >reconfigure as much of it as possible without >recompiling it, or even rebooting it. This is >especially true in troubleshooting where quick changes >may be needed and where recompiling each time a >setting is changed becomes quite awkward. Allowing >more run time configuration would both make FreeBSD >more configurable and expert friendly as well as >easier to use for everyone. I think in order to make >software easy to use, it needs to be highly >configurable, and not require a recompile just to add >hardware support. Most things don't require a reboot. I count 440=20 available modules in /boot/kernel, which makes it=20 very easy to add support for something that's not already compiled in. -Glenn >Thank you. > > > >__________________________________________ >Yahoo! DSL =AD Something to write home about. >Just $16.99/mo. or less. >dsl.yahoo.com > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to= "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"