From owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 13 05:18:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-security@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82F05BA2; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 05:18:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lev@FreeBSD.org) Received: from onlyone.friendlyhosting.spb.ru (onlyone.friendlyhosting.spb.ru [46.4.40.135]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41D7326E5; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 05:18:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lion.home.serebryakov.spb.ru (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:923f:1:e570:39d1:5fba:531f]) (Authenticated sender: lev@serebryakov.spb.ru) by onlyone.friendlyhosting.spb.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D8F8D4AC57; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 09:18:43 +0400 (MSK) Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 09:18:35 +0400 From: Lev Serebryakov X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1458963304.20130913091835@serebryakov.spb.ru> To: Julian Elischer Subject: Re: FreeBSD Transient Memory problem? In-Reply-To: <5231D461.5050504@freebsd.org> References: <5231D461.5050504@freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-security@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-security@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Security issues \[members-only posting\]" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 05:18:52 -0000 Hello, Julian. You wrote 12 =D1=81=D0=B5=D0=BD=D1=82=D1=8F=D0=B1=D1=80=D1=8F 2013 =D0=B3.,= 18:49:05: JE> Pretty much all they've proved to me is that they have no idea of what JE> they are talking about. JE> You need to ask them for a better description of the problem as so far= =20 JE> all you've JE> seen is about a hundred computer science professionals rolling around= =20 JE> on the floor JE> laughing when you showed them the paragraph from the report.. JE> and you can quote me on that one. In my expirience, "Security audit" people, who could, for example, do PCI/DSS audit, are like this. So, yet, it is their level of competence, but you could not pass around them, if you want official PCI/DSS certification, for example. Did you seen this epic thread on stackoverflow (or its devops/sysops counterpart) about "log file with every login of each user with password in clear text,'' for example? --=20 // Black Lion AKA Lev Serebryakov