From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Tue Dec 13 05:27:16 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E0C1C7540E for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2016 05:27:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kob6558@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ua0-x22f.google.com (mail-ua0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c08::22f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3AC9310B2 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2016 05:27:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kob6558@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ua0-x22f.google.com with SMTP id 12so102832896uas.2 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2016 21:27:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=hTGN8HYiAfZzLoz4sLbLQKBS8VZtKX+/nYDDC5ogkOo=; b=uFvmNQPw/zs5HlU0qNMlDYzmm4Mhve4gAIzPjDXDp8LG4O6i2jme4mAQmAKjmoexpu 6NiayFvxw7smaSkLpBEVolAHhJwLJ75wdQsTKD3EqJjy/2kTEMVzMb4PWCYtF1r46KOP GEVBUkm7VrGCvDtxLl7l7zLplRo83gb9+sj7JPXbA2fJ+frrdxGV7JcQiJwB3+smXnEb 3vRUDZ4Akw/WDTYQg6RxAnmV44t4fVaKM4fa1EGkd0QV4K6aVsjQyhK7iSFOoyRV1hyi 5TfwA1L4G+ltJAlJ4erbUSK1MW9jnQsaSN2WGxI0pGHO0fyKwL0xrrUYN1BYFuF5zMWX WF3w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=hTGN8HYiAfZzLoz4sLbLQKBS8VZtKX+/nYDDC5ogkOo=; b=RpH4Pv31efnokv2oM1Qa468B90jPkfsbRrv3Si1fUH0rsJ1jyoONf88i2xx2pv3PIL JXpod8FhJCSIlgLLSQ3NruTOu2aUnRXu0BFXnlNir8NmoGHiz1B8f3Wm7zS+b3R1dV1O Z4/Lj8ZifmfKbiDIov8+beohkMcurHNb1tEv5bksKv7csDuM4aNUY+70hpq0mLCCSul2 tA/o8ukOQ8jHbMtyoKT6rmMv3fjhHN63y0X8UfgDRVuPGi+HVtRvAISVB3AzVXEHS11N 3+/2ozM05uBNboR/PP2i0j1gHZOb6GVs0Y64Iv81fJYcR8PhVorqDuWo2Fpk09/pvPrg JWwQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AKaTC01J6+46yvF8b+aYx4daUFNYWcC+qMu6yia5qK0vSrCp6qdZN7obYGp8WASfqfKv79RyMzelJ/kGHHWvig== X-Received: by 10.176.64.234 with SMTP id i97mr65758338uad.7.1481606835268; Mon, 12 Dec 2016 21:27:15 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: kob6558@gmail.com Received: by 10.103.122.15 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Dec 2016 21:27:14 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <201612121931.uBCJV0qO022291@fire.js.berklix.net> References: <201612121931.uBCJV0qO022291@fire.js.berklix.net> From: Kevin Oberman Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2016 21:27:14 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: EB2uMOY9_JMfL38tiG6Fuh93BYM Message-ID: Subject: Re: The ports collection has some serious issues To: "Julian H. Stacey" Cc: Shane Ambler , "Janky Jay, III" , FreeBSD Ports ML Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2016 05:27:16 -0000 On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 11:31 AM, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > I would say this rarely happens with the default setup, the more port > > options you change the more likely it is something will break. > > Yes, I now start: cd /var/db/ports; mv * MV/* ; setenv NO_DIALOG=YES > Before: cd /usr/ports; make BERKLIX_CLIENT=YES # Uses > ports/*/Makefile.local > (still innumerable breaks of course on 1200 ports inc deps.) > > I can re-enable options for a 2nd pass rebuild for the very > few ports need it (maybe some better way?). > > poudriere's `-f' is nice to accept a list. > But I havent found a way to build my list yet from my Makefile.local eg > cd /usr/ports; make BERKLIX_CLIENT=YES echo_my_category_and_port > I'll probably hack bsd.port.mk & bsd.port.subdir.mk > > ${CATEGORIES}/${PORTNAME} is not quite usable, as eg mail/exmh2 emits > "mail tk/exmh". Maybe just `pwd` & strip with sed PORTSDIR ? > > Cheers, > Julian > -- > Julian Stacey, BSD Linux Unix Sys Eng Consultant Munich > Reply below, Prefix '> '. Plain text, No .doc, base64, HTML, > quoted-printable. > http://berklix.eu/brexit/#stolen_votes Just to d one more opinion to this thread, I really agree with Julian that there needs to be a saved quarterly and an active quarterly for exactly the reasons he stated. the jump from quarter to quarter obviates many of the advantages of a quarterly branch Second, I am a bit bewildered at the people who have so much trouble with building from ports. I use portmaster and really wish there was an option to try to continue when a port bombs, but it works well for me. Just this weekend I had to re-build about 90 ports and it went of without a hitch. It is to have at least some understanding of how ports work to minimize problems. Thing like MAKE_JOBS_UNSAFE and trying to wait a bit (a few hours) and trying to update the sources when something fails. I do wish all of this was better documented, though. Guess I should try doing something about that. -- Kevin Oberman, Part time kid herder and retired Network Engineer E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com PGP Fingerprint: D03FB98AFA78E3B78C1694B318AB39EF1B055683