From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 8 05:34:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B6E616A404 for ; Mon, 8 May 2006 05:34:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikej@rogers.com) Received: from smtp101.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp101.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.36.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B2CD243D46 for ; Mon, 8 May 2006 05:34:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mikej@rogers.com) Received: (qmail 13990 invoked from network); 8 May 2006 05:34:25 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rogers.com; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=gLpYwZqfcWkZOEP5Ndq1YaaCdThTueViN0I6tvWGdVxX/4R7Kcm8HNB1IEGoyvQw8QE07b6/sktq5Z/wqc8MHNzKG4o/9BpBxf9Umg0NAJSDDMx8xzFQ/nB1toXZXFID+PO3mlWmshfvNop0AMmiyZ6iG6TiHmx5kmimkPYWCus= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?70.31.50.218?) (mikej@rogers.com@70.31.50.218 with plain) by smtp101.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 May 2006 05:34:25 -0000 Message-ID: <445ED86A.2030801@rogers.com> Date: Mon, 08 May 2006 01:34:34 -0400 From: Mike Jakubik User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (Windows/20060308) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Nugent References: <4457A02C.9040408@rogers.com> <20060503110503.O58458@fledge.watson.org> <35c231bf0605031821s582b6d03j3ee9d434a596f62a@mail.gmail.com> <20060504021908.GA714@soaustin.net> <35c231bf0605032011s65fbb1aby742438465ee98ee7@mail.gmail.com> <20060504033300.GA39935@xor.obsecurity.org> <44598615.3040400@rogers.com> <20060504044758.GA41047@xor.obsecurity.org> <44599732.1050905@rogers.com> <20060505080543.GD5466@garage.freebsd.pl> <35c231bf0605051049t2761281ar97b9634b8279b1fd@mail.gmail.com> <445B991F.3050600@rogers.com> <445BCEE3.6040607@bgp4.net> <445EBC38.9090301@datalinktech.com.au> In-Reply-To: <445EBC38.9090301@datalinktech.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Janet Sullivan , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: quota deadlock on 6.1-RC1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 May 2006 05:34:27 -0000 David Nugent wrote: > Janet Sullivan wrote: >> No, I don't use quotas. I doubt the majority of FreeBSD users do. > > I don't either, but "the majority of FreeBSD users" is a shifting > thing, and very hard to make generalisations about. Once quota was > about shell users, now it's more common for mail servers to manage > storage quotas in a more appropriate way according to their storage > mechanism and there are less shell users due to more convenient and > "user friendly" networking applications that provide functionality > that can be more easily secured. > > Quotas are now used more often with samba than anything else, and of > course it's use has skyrocketted in recent years for obvious reasons. > So who knows... Quotas are important to certain mail servers as you mention, and they are also very important for webhosting. Hosting solutions such as Plesk utilize quotas. As we all know, fbsd has been the OS of choice for webhosting, lets not let that slip away.