From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 4 02:23:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6804FD3A; Wed, 4 Dec 2013 02:23:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (cain.gsoft.com.au [203.31.81.10]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E29EC170E; Wed, 4 Dec 2013 02:23:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ur.dons.net.au (ppp121-45-29-106.lns20.adl2.internode.on.net [121.45.29.106]) (authenticated bits=0) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id rB42NKcS066162 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Wed, 4 Dec 2013 12:53:26 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Subject: Re: BIND segway -> python -> first-class ports Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.0 \(1822\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Daniel O'Connor" In-Reply-To: <529E8F34.5040604@freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 12:53:20 +1030 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <09D50FED-23A9-46D3-A589-443BEC04F353@gsoft.com.au> References: <529E8C53.6020208@freebsd.org> <529E8F34.5040604@freebsd.org> To: Alfred Perlstein X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1822) X-Spam-Score: 0.163 () BAYES_00,RDNS_DYNAMIC X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.67 on 203.31.81.10 Cc: freebsd-stable stable X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2013 02:23:30 -0000 On 4 Dec 2013, at 12:41, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > So yes, let's get python in base, but *not make it user visible*. We = need to only make it visible for internal use of our "src base". This would still be problematic for, say hypothetical Python bindings to = BIND (I have no idea if they exist but let's assume they do). Either the bindings are hidden, in which case only 'base' can use them = which makes them pointless, or they would need to be an external port = (but they which Python would they use? ergh..) This is like the problem with Open Office having its own Python - unless = you run that binary you can't safely use the bindings which renders them = almost useless. -- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum GPG Fingerprint - 5596 B766 97C0 0E94 4347 295E E593 DC20 7B3F CE8C