From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 29 01:09:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84A2016A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 01:09:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pooker.samsco.org (pooker.samsco.org [168.103.85.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6ACC43D46 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 01:09:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Received: from [192.168.254.11] (junior-wifi.samsco.home [192.168.254.11]) (authenticated bits=0) by pooker.samsco.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j3T1DB8q026464; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 19:13:12 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Message-ID: <4271885C.3000606@samsco.org> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 19:05:32 -0600 From: Scott Long User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20050218 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Toxa References: <57436.216.177.243.42.1114582155.localmail@webmail.dnswatch.com> <426FDE69.8090909@samsco.org> <426FE1EA.7020900@kutulu.org> <20050428105348.GA8056@laptoxa.toxa.lan> <4270CC84.8060904@centtech.com> <20050429010318.GB17799@laptoxa.toxa.lan> In-Reply-To: <20050429010318.GB17799@laptoxa.toxa.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=3.8 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.0.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on pooker.samsco.org cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: boot banner project X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 01:09:05 -0000 Toxa wrote: > On Thu, Apr 28, 2005 at 06:44:04AM -0500, Eric Anderson wrote: > >>HP-UX boxes too, and I have to say, it's a lot easier to tell what is >>going on than our current ascii-spray we have now. I've even had >>people ask if my machine just crashed when they see it boot. >> >>This could easily be an rc.conf option I'm sure.. >> >>Eric > > > As I've told before, I personally strictly dislike idea to add something > till then it's really necessary and desirable. In my humble opinion, > polishing representaton of a boot process is generally bad idea. It > brings nothing useful into boot process, adds more code into system (We > all don't want freebsd to be bloated, do we?), and don't makes such users as > you described above more clever. > Are you the gatekeeper for the 'necessary and desirable' standard? I'd prefer to keep the debate technical and see what can be produced rather than inject personal opinion as if it represents everyone. Scott