From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Aug 23 14:50:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA79C37B443 for ; Wed, 23 Aug 2000 14:50:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA67358; Wed, 23 Aug 2000 15:50:11 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id PAA52708; Wed, 23 Aug 2000 15:49:58 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200008232149.PAA52708@harmony.village.org> To: Archie Cobbs Subject: Re: 4.1 Release....MIIBUS Cc: Daryl Chance , FreeBSD Hackers In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 23 Aug 2000 14:09:05 PDT." <200008232109.OAA86366@bubba.whistle.com> References: <200008232109.OAA86366@bubba.whistle.com> Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 15:49:58 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <200008232109.OAA86366@bubba.whistle.com> Archie Cobbs writes: : Warner Losh writes: : > : not marked. I noticed that 4.1 Release miibus is still not : > : marked as (required), is it no longer required, or is it still : > : not marked? I ahven't tried compiling it with miibus commented : > : out, I'm just assuming it's still required : > : > miibus is still required for any ethernet card with a mii. Which is : > basically all of them produced in the last few years. my trusty : > ne2000 doesn't need it :-) : : Would you ever want "miibus" even if you're NOT using any of : the cards that require it? No. : I guess you might need it to be able to KLD load one of those : drivers.. ? But that's no argument becuse you could just have : a miibus.ko that was a dependency of those drivers. Already does that. : So why is it a separate option? because it is a driver. Why is pci a separate driver? While most computers have it, not all do. Likewise with miibus. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message