From owner-freebsd-arch Mon Apr 16 21:36:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (Odin.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2619337B43C for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 21:36:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brdavis@odin.ac.hmc.edu) Received: (from brdavis@localhost) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f3H4adv32146; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 21:36:39 -0700 Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 21:36:39 -0700 From: Brooks Davis To: Doug Ambrisko Cc: Andre Oppermann , Andre Oppermann , Duncan Barclay , freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Use of if_ef for 802.11 interfaces? Message-ID: <20010416213639.A27836@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> References: <3ADB66F3.66E60281@telehouse.ch> <200104170326.f3H3Q4r64528@ambrisko.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200104170326.f3H3Q4r64528@ambrisko.com>; from ambrisko@ambrisko.com on Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 08:26:04PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 08:26:04PM -0700, Doug Ambrisko wrote: > Also it will be interesting how we support LEAP that requires a user name > passwd to be entered. I'm just starting to investigate that. I beleve windows does this via a tray icon. It seems to me that this problem is probably best handled by an entierly different machanism. We could add a stupid IEEE80211_IOC_EAP_INFO ioctl to set it, but I feel that's an invalid solution because it discounts valid options like using one time passwords for network authentication. Also, the user to be entering this data is the one on the console, not necessicairly the administrator of the system so privs get confused. Finally, this problem is very similar to other problems such as cfs key prompting. For these reason, I don't think a ioctl really provides an appropriate interface for this functionality. I think the thing it's closest too today is devd (the currently non-existant replacement for pccard, usbd, etc) except that the devd static implementation is really just the special case for embeded solutions and in other cases you will actually need to prompt the user. That's the hard part. For some UIs prompting the user is pretty obvious. In KDE or Gnome, you create something that sits on a socket or device node and prompts the users when the kernel tells it to. For the console, it's much more complicated. The only solutions I've come up with involve biff or wall like async notification coupled with a program users can run to handle outstanding requests. -- Brooks --=20 Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. PGP fingerprint 655D 519C 26A7 82E7 2529 9BF0 5D8E 8BE9 F238 1AD4 --C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE628hXXY6L6fI4GtQRAk/MAKCsMNV2TWn2+oQawF5NwNdh3sD+PgCg2W25 U3Mkhpacw17vu17W2whnATQ= =Xg5V -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message