From owner-freebsd-sparc64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 11 19:36:14 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0996F106568D for ; Mon, 11 Jan 2010 19:36:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from samankaya@netscape.net) Received: from imr-db03.mx.aol.com (imr-db03.mx.aol.com [205.188.91.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCC148FC12 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 2010 19:36:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from imo-da02.mx.aol.com (imo-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.200]) by imr-db03.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id o0BJZtNQ019501; Mon, 11 Jan 2010 14:35:55 -0500 Received: from samankaya@netscape.net by imo-da02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id o.bc4.5e6db6d5 (34969); Mon, 11 Jan 2010 14:35:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from [172.16.1.52] (mail.reformkurumsal.com [212.156.209.87]) by cia-da07.mx.aol.com (v127.7) with ESMTP id MAILCIADA076-88994b4b7d9139e; Mon, 11 Jan 2010 14:35:47 -0500 Message-ID: <4B4B7D86.6000502@netscape.net> Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 21:35:34 +0200 From: Kaya Saman User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090323) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Royce Williams References: <4B4A6FA5.1010002@netscape.net> <4B4B6E37.3050005@netscape.net> <9dd082311001111056j1ca3afb4le14ba84270fb730@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9dd082311001111056j1ca3afb4le14ba84270fb730@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AOL-IP: 212.156.209.87 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) X-Spam-Flag: NO X-AOL-SENDER: samankaya@netscape.net Cc: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Newbie to FreeBSD on SPARC - questions about Sun hardware X-BeenThere: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Sparc List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 19:36:14 -0000 Royce Williams wrote: > On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 9:30 AM, Kaya Saman wrote: > > >> is this list online or dead? >> >> Sorry am just not used to a mailing list being this quiet! Usually within a >> few minutes or hours of signing up someone has posted something to the list >> (not meaning response to what I ask but just in a generic sense). >> > > I'm mostly a lurker on this list, but I'd say that the silence was > because your message had multiple sections, and some of the questions > were non-trivial to answer. :-) > > Your summary was helpful: > > [...] > > .. but you also said that you were interested in the difference > between SPARC and x86. There are many, many variables underneath the > answer to these questions. Also, "performance" means different things > to different people. I don't know of any broad, publiished benchmarks > comparing freebsd/sparc64 and freebsd/i386 performance, but they would > be interesting to see. > > Maybe someone else on the list is in a similar boat, and will chime in > here. :-) In my experience, unless you can find others who are > already working under similar requirements, the clueful advice I've > seen people give is that doing your own testing is the best way to get > results that are meaningful to your situation. > > Royce > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-sparc64 > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-sparc64-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Many thanks for the response Royce! :-) Actually I am not that much interested in the performance benefits between x86 and SPARC; but more between OpenSolaris and FreeBSD on SPARC as I will be running either one on a Sun V480 server. The issue I am facing is purely down to software and administration. I mean the best example I can provide is that BSD has the packages I want at least for x86 which I've seen: that are Cacti, Munin, and awstats (should also be there for SPARC too) but then Solaris has zones which allow me to allocate a separate virtualized OS contained within the master OS or global zone. BSD on the other hand has jails and as from going onto the jails list apparently I can actually assign interfaces to various jails which is what I was going to do if I used Solaris Zones. So that's really what my issue is: which OS to choose?? Adding to what I mentioned about Cacti, Munin etc.... Solaris has a secondary site called opencsw which you can download most of the stuff bar Cacti. This just makes thing tricky I feel to install and configure since one can do a /usr/ports/*/cacti then make install clean which will do everything on FreeBSD. Hmm..... decisions, decisions...... Regards, Kaya