From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Oct 7 13:06:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA23198 for hackers-outgoing; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 13:06:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sequent.kiae.su (sequent.kiae.su [193.125.152.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA23164; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 13:05:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by sequent.kiae.su id AA23612 (5.65.kiae-2 ); Mon, 7 Oct 1996 23:38:18 +0400 Received: by sequent.KIAE.su (UUMAIL/2.0); Mon, 7 Oct 96 23:38:17 +0400 Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.ru (8.7.6/8.7.3) id XAA04969; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 23:37:18 +0400 (MSD) Message-Id: <199610071937.XAA04969@nagual.ru> Subject: Re: I plan to change random() for -current (was Re: rand() and random()) In-Reply-To: <199610071850.LAA14614@phaeton.artisoft.com> from "Terry Lambert" at "Oct 7, 96 11:50:42 am" To: terry@lambert.org (Terry Lambert) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 23:37:18 +0400 (MSD) Cc: wollman@lcs.mit.edu, terry@lambert.org, joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org, current@FreeBSD.org, bde@zeta.org.au From: "=?KOI8-R?Q?=E1=CE=C4=D2=C5=CA_=FE=C5=D2=CE=CF=D7?=" (Andrey A. Chernov) Organization: self X-Class: Fast X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Here we have an issue where the technical merit is relative: it depends > on if you depends on the "random" behaviour" or if you depends on the > "pseudo" behaviour. This is the main ideological debate. Your "pseudo" idea is technically wrong. Standard says that ([...] my comments) "THIS function [NOT all possible old and future implementations of this function] produce the same sequence for same seed". -- Andrey A. Chernov http://www.nagual.ru/~ache/