From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 30 17:02:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52827106564A for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2012 17:02:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 155358FC08 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2012 17:02:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iahk25 with SMTP id k25so6136757iah.13 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2012 10:02:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :x-gm-message-state; bh=inwjzBufSjotTvIpDhTVsC+s+tL+c3a/e3NeRNjjJsk=; b=bHlScSCOMJYe2exm6jjyao04IMmkIg1lbpTwR9TBd+JXY9fiduLFIE760DeyPIy39M ik0vDkTaKki0I5vrUbNnGhQ835Y/trEZNxkUtmZPIFH+e4Fr3e32+wOWgo4ISBVEBaeq sPAUCe6O8lh9BlHL5MeeGfAoWyL6tOXosr/raL5SUndCB+k2v4S/Q/esUt2r+zDHUgTV jVdjUREyWImrvWqZ9zZbqPXwPaEi3MuQBT9wgjkzsCTTuT7j3ijsfDW+D3TiuJFZKrV0 NbShpDugNgc5l7ZQa+2D/02WGQaX5eFATpav1U2lCT9GcQWuSa0bSZB596v/o1B45sv9 ok6A== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.202.100 with SMTP id kh4mr10997198igc.43.1335805325691; Mon, 30 Apr 2012 10:02:05 -0700 (PDT) Sender: aimass@yabarana.com Received: by 10.231.74.138 with HTTP; Mon, 30 Apr 2012 10:02:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201204301922.35044.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> References: <201204301136.q3UBa8fj083478@mail.r-bonomi.com> <201204301922.35044.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 13:02:05 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: LDTh83vAX41Wpm3WjyuvU-H0wl8 Message-ID: From: Alejandro Imass To: Erich Dollansky Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnqaKFtqB4OoLBI0tjkiOQwpzZWa45cLtRXBT0uD7/qkdp/El3W8UOY681Nh/NAZ9qba7eG Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Robert Bonomi Subject: Re: UFS Crash and directories now missing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 17:02:06 -0000 On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 8:22 AM, Erich Dollansky wrote: > Hi, > > On Monday 30 April 2012 18:36:08 Robert Bonomi wrote: >> >> Alejandro Imass wrote: >> That simply *ISN'T* going to happen -- not without a -lot- more evidence >> than any individual can provide from a single =unrepeadable= incident. >> > ok, I am not the original poster but let me tell me of an experience here I have had. I reported also something extremely strange. Of course, the comments I have gotten have been the same as here. But what happened then? > > I do not know why but somebody found a race condition in the affected system. There is no fix available yet. > > With other words, no matter how strange things are, I encourage people to report it. Not with the real hope to get a solution at the spot. But with the chance that somebody who knows the code well and has some strange feelings takes a look. > > I also encourage my clients to do the same for our products and services. > Thanks Erich for pionting this out. This is the FreeBSD USERS LIST, not the elite exchange. I I was posting this on some expert list like the kernel list or some other more technical list I could understand the attitude, but this is the user's list. We are NOT required to know the details, just share experiences and try to help one another, not put other people down for trying to solve our issues as users. What is really frustrating is that it actually happened and I try to do everything by the book. I don't do any fancy or strange things, so something caused these directories to be moved through NORMAL use of the system, regardless if some people believe it or not, I could care less. It happened, period, and if someone wants to help fine, if not they should just shut up. Thanks again for pointing this out. We are the users, we are the people that keep this project alive and share the good. -- Alejandro Imass