From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 02:47:03 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C261699F for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 02:47:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.iXsystems.com (mail.ixsystems.com [12.229.62.4]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.ixsystems.com", Issuer "Go Daddy Secure Certification Authority" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9FE73966 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 02:47:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (mail.ixsystems.com [10.2.55.1]) by mail.iXsystems.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A700380348; Wed, 22 Oct 2014 19:47:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.iXsystems.com ([10.2.55.1]) by localhost (mail.ixsystems.com [10.2.55.1]) (maiad, port 10024) with ESMTP id 57526-10; Wed, 22 Oct 2014 19:47:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.2.0.80] (unknown [10.2.0.80]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.iXsystems.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5E17D80343; Wed, 22 Oct 2014 19:47:02 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.0 \(1990.1\)) Subject: Re: nosh version 1.9 From: Jordan Hubbard In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2014 19:49:21 -0700 Message-Id: <527291AC-C5E2-420C-B566-C051BA82CA84@turbofuzz.com> References: <54430B41.3010301@NTLWorld.com> <5443191E.5050208@mu.org> <34F30D28-DE9B-444F-885E-F438FEEA46EC@mu.org> <54482A5E.2050303@NTLWorld.com> To: Outback Dingo X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1990.1) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 02:50:59 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" , Jonathan de Boyne Pollard X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 02:47:03 -0000 > On Oct 22, 2014, at 7:16 PM, Outback Dingo > wrote: >=20 > Actually our port is "very" xml aware :) see = https://github.com/outbackdingo/launchd_xml/tree/master/launch_xml = OK, well, launchd as originally designed certainly was not (and is not) = xml-aware. This was on purpose. You don=E2=80=99t want a lot of = surface area in pid 1, which can never crash, nor do you want to bake = your serialization format into stone tablets. launchctl(1) does all the XML parsing and then passes the results to = launchd using its own custom IPC format. Was there some particular = reason you violently inserted the XML parsing directly into launchd = after the original architect(s) went to such pains to avoid such blatant = penitentiary experiences? :-) - Jordan