From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 6 07:25:33 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7509516A4CE for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2005 07:25:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B73343D2F for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2005 07:25:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j067PPj32567; Wed, 5 Jan 2005 23:25:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Dick Davies" , "FreeBSD Questions" Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 23:25:25 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20050106071152.GF12003@lb.tenfour> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Importance: Normal Subject: RE: Sun revokes FreeBSD license for Java X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 07:25:33 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Dick Davies > Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 11:12 PM > To: FreeBSD Questions > Subject: Re: Sun revokes FreeBSD license for Java > > > If FreeBSD can get a current binary JRE distributed then it helps > > out those companies that use FreeBSD that have applications like that > > which they are attempting to sell, without bothering the rest of > > us who aren't in this boat. In this case why not make friends with > > them when it costs you nothing? > > I don't think it does cost the Foundation nothing, that's the > trouble. You > spend years jumping through hoops to get the certification (the > only benefit > of which is it pleases the managers) and then they turn round > and make you > do it again. > Hmm - sounds like what Microsoft does. > With this attitude it's hardly suprising they piss some people > off (especially > when the product you're doing all this for is pretty second rate > when compared > to python or ruby imo)... > Name of the game with commercialized technology which is filled with example after of example of second and 3rd rater products that win the market from 1st rater products merely because their marketing is better. Let's see, in automotive we have lap&shoulder belts vs 5 point harnesses, or for that matter airbags vs seatbelts, in television we have Betamax vs VHS, in computing we have Windows vs Mac, NT vs OS/2, Linux vs FreeBSD ... ;-) Ted