From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 28 10:27:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 551A016A400 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2007 10:27:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from boris@brooknet.com.au) Received: from mailout2.pacific.net.au (mailout2-8.pacific.net.au [61.8.2.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E4F213C45B for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2007 10:27:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from boris@brooknet.com.au) Received: from mailproxy2.pacific.net.au (mailproxy2.pacific.net.au [61.8.2.163]) by mailout2.pacific.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2C9B10D0C1; Sat, 28 Apr 2007 19:59:27 +1000 (EST) Received: from [192.168.100.2] (ppp2CAB.dyn.pacific.net.au [61.8.44.171]) by mailproxy2.pacific.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C3602740A; Sat, 28 Apr 2007 19:59:32 +1000 (EST) In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <77D9AF4A-AA68-4AA4-B1CB-9E8781BB77C6@brooknet.com.au> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Sam Lawrance Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 19:59:18 +1000 To: Ted Mittelstaedt X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Greylisting -- Was: Anti Spam X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 10:27:34 -0000 On 28/04/2007, at 7:25 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Bart Silverstrim [mailto:bsilver@chrononomicon.com] >> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 1:58 PM >> To: Ted Mittelstaedt >> Cc: Christopher Hilton; Grant Peel; Eric Crist; >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> Subject: Re: Greylisting -- Was: Anti Spam >> >> >> >> On Apr 26, 2007, at 12:15 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >> >>> There are legitimate technical reasons that someone may want their >>> mail >>> to not be greylisted. For example, my cell phone's e-mail >>> address is >>> in our monitoring scripts to page me in the event of a server >>> failure. >>> I would be pretty pissed off if Sprint suddenly started >>> greylisting. It >>> isn't just dumb-ass users making stupid political decisions to >>> reject >>> it, although in your case it probably was. >> >> If it is a legitimate mail server, it would be promoted to the auto- >> whitelist. Not all mail is constantly greylisted by most intelligent >> greylist systems. Only the first few messages would be delayed, >> until it is established as legitimate. >> > > That won't work in my case since I generally only have a failure > that causes > a problem which results in paging about once every 3 months or so. > By the > time the pages got through the > greylist it would be at least an hour later after the system had gone > down. That isn't acceptable for a notification system. Email is not an instant messaging system, no matter how much you want it to be one.