Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 08:01:30 +0300 From: Konstantin Belousov <kostikbel@gmail.com> To: "Simon J. Gerraty" <sjg@juniper.net> Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, Marcel Moolenaar <marcel@xcllnt.net>, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [CFT/RFC]: refactor bsd.prog.mk to understand multiple programs instead of a singular program Message-ID: <20121026050130.GL35915@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua> In-Reply-To: <20121025225353.86DA658094@chaos.jnpr.net> References: <201210020750.23358.jhb@freebsd.org> <CAGH67wTM1VDrpu7rS=VE1G_kVEOHhS4-OCy5FX_6eDGmiNTA8A@mail.gmail.com> <201210021037.27762.jhb@freebsd.org> <CAGH67wQffjVHqFw_eN=mfeg-Ac2Z6XBT5Hv72ev0kjjx7YH7SA@mail.gmail.com> <127FA63D-8EEE-4616-AE1E-C39469DDCC6A@xcllnt.net> <20121025211522.GA32636@dragon.NUXI.org> <3F52B7C9-A7B7-4E0E-87D0-1E67FE5D0BA7@xcllnt.net> <CAGH67wRw_n2_KwVz=DZkMpeJ4t8mMf965nxehHsDV-mzTnn5cA@mail.gmail.com> <CADLo839EUTF9bP8VD3L1_boY8i-w8B87yHGRR7Zx6wONFnSnEQ@mail.gmail.com> <20121025225353.86DA658094@chaos.jnpr.net>
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--XlEUlEMI/M8PZpW+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 03:53:53PM -0700, Simon J. Gerraty wrote: >=20 > On Thu, 25 Oct 2012 23:01:27 +0100, Chris Rees writes: > >Is there a Wiki page where the actual benefits of moving to bmake are > >made clear? This is a major, *major* upheaval, and having two > >versions of bsd.port.mk for years is simply not an option. >=20 > There is no need/plan for two versions of bsd.port.mk, the patch I just > mentioned, deals with older systems by detecting that bmake was not > used, and using it (installing if need be). =20 >=20 > >Have you discussed this on ports@? >=20 > I have not at least. =20 > This was discussed at the last couple of BSDCan's and dev summits. >=20 > The original plan discussed at BSDCan a couple of years ago, was to > allow bmake and the old make to cooexist for some time so that ports > could continue to use the old make. >=20 > At the last BSDCan we were told that wasn't an option - hence the patch > to ports that was mentioned. >=20 > FWIW the changes to 99.9% of the ports tree are trivial (:L -> :tl etc). > The only interesting changes are to bsd.port.mk (the diff other than the > above is 54 lines) they cover 2 things - dealing with old make as > mentioned above, and man pages. The nested .for loops that deal > with MLINKS are replaced with one line - this was safer that attempting > to hack those .for loops to work with both makes. I am watching the serial for some time. Could please, someone, describe why bmake cannot grow the compat features to be a drop-in replacement for FreeBSD make, instead of patching all the trees ? In particular, why cannot the ':L' and ':U' support be added ? --XlEUlEMI/M8PZpW+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAlCKGSoACgkQC3+MBN1Mb4iAYACfSwsdXrng2TEhcB7KtNQsjkiE U0UAoIa8x38lzjsftwX4EkITmpoBIeaC =LELO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --XlEUlEMI/M8PZpW+--
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