From owner-freebsd-arm@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 10 05:24:35 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arm@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 254918FD for ; Sun, 10 May 2015 05:24:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ig0-x233.google.com (mail-ig0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E392B108B for ; Sun, 10 May 2015 05:24:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iget9 with SMTP id t9so53838342ige.1 for ; Sat, 09 May 2015 22:24:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=axZU/vI3bV+gi0ahbfJDqPiJDguYHZnHtyImeHkcw1Q=; b=h2sEA3/w2AfNr8ASfEtzhJ9OLe9qeoEz/qwYJZR/5tH2uMcTI7xR3/o6FL31IS0CyW CowEgcDKGTs//c0MZYDJn2M7JFB4zN/YndSPKUIaXOAVQ+u/2500TIYVh4hLHuyptYhR FcDMRZqmLHj9DLmpKkYb76qYzx83s2Ii2A9JR2KQmga+Ium2wAPa8yanu5wY9H3jKeHH C6yMhiSZQintXCUCEsJEKa91Km1kYaBKkRlpjblpaHi1qISndOEteJ53cDsO73Yb7Lh7 04LGqF+MgdD32y6QB8t2FWUJ/oz7gjoiBCd2R+p7tChR+mmcpH3VMwuBbp5uRg6qylfE AvaA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.43.163.129 with SMTP id mo1mr5226086icc.61.1431235474355; Sat, 09 May 2015 22:24:34 -0700 (PDT) Sender: adrian.chadd@gmail.com Received: by 10.36.38.133 with HTTP; Sat, 9 May 2015 22:24:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <0FD2F2B4EF6E490B9DB6CEF1119ECB70@ad.peach.ne.jp> <2DD4D1CE-E05B-44D7-B396-92BB4CD1D98D@kientzle.com> Date: Sat, 9 May 2015 22:24:34 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: EA9Kj3UtAgZ2NSCGQq27lTdZ7y0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: RPi2 support... From: Adrian Chadd To: Jordan Hubbard Cc: Tim Kientzle , freebsd-arm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-arm@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Porting FreeBSD to ARM processors." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 May 2015 05:24:35 -0000 Hi, I think Crochet will live on for a while. gjb didn't like how development wasn't freebsd-releng-friendly (but really, which upstream vendor project is in all honesty) so he's rolled a replacement that's just landed in head. Time will tell which will work out better. Me, I'm completely ignoring /all of that/ because I'm fed up with building things as root and having to do loopback mounts to build things and loopback devices to create filesystems. My mips stuff does everything 100% as a user, and it's actually really damned pleasant. I'd love to see FreeBSD move to that model but I have a feeling it'll be fighting against lazy developers who are used to having root everywhere. -adrian