From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 8 11:42:45 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56B2616A4CE for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2004 11:42:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 251E043D1D for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2004 11:42:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Pastor_Mac@spymac.com) Received: from spymac.com (c-67-172-71-158.client.comcast.net[67.172.71.158]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <2004020819424401100t5s77e>; Sun, 8 Feb 2004 19:42:44 +0000 Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2004 14:42:43 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) From: Pastor Mac To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <200402070310.i173ADZt073492@freefall.freebsd.org> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) Subject: Raw Newcomer X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2004 19:42:45 -0000 Hi folks-- Well, I'm jumping into the deep end and tried the 4.9 release. I finally got the system stable after the 3rd try. I started out on a unstable WinXP box and wiped the drive and reloaded XP Pro on the first 15 GB of the 40 GB drive. I had a second 8 GB drive that I wanted to put FreeBSD on and so I was using the mini install disc and a FTP connection to the main site. But apparently I ended up either slicing the wrong drive or putting the bootloader elsewhere. Upon the post-install reboot, I had nothing. I was sure I did things right but obviously not. Back to the install docs. The 2nd time I just tried using the mini-install CD but I didn't get enough pkgs for some selections I made and so several pkgs were missing components, namely a graphical environment. OK, I'm a Mac freak (albeit on OS X) and navigating a command line is not easy so I need the training wheels right now... So I decided to wipe the slice again and create a 10 GB slice on the main drive and another FTP install (Comcast cable service is now giving a 3 Mbps connection to users) and see if I can put the bootloader in the right place. I chose the "Graphical User" option for packages--I'm not a coder or developer, I just want to be a desktop user and play with the server tools because I'd like to get into network administration and from the conversation I pick up here and there is that *BSD has the maturity that Linux yet needs. Plus Max OS X has the BSD network layer and Avie Tevanian seems to have pretty good judgement on such matters. Anyway, I have the Handbook and I'm trying to digest what I can--I had a class last year using Red Hat 7.2 for network administration so I'm acquainted with basic terminology and some of the standard server packages (BIND, Sendmail, Apache, etc). I'm going to read and pop up in the Questions list and try real, real hard not to sound like the marketing doofus from User Friendly. Pax, Mike McDonald (Pastor Mac) On OS X, learning FreeBSD Pax, Pastor Mac On OS X