From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Oct 16 15:52:22 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B956148E10 for ; Wed, 16 Oct 2019 15:52:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [96.47.72.83]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46tcHn6dDcz3x1R for ; Wed, 16 Oct 2019 15:52:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:c4ea:bd49:619b:6cb3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) (Authenticated sender: matthew/mail) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AAC1D1EB49 for ; Wed, 16 Oct 2019 15:52:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from leaf.local (unknown [88.212.184.97]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 35DD714E2 for ; Wed, 16 Oct 2019 15:52:20 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=FreeBSD.org Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/35DD714E2; dkim=none; dkim-atps=neutral Subject: Re: Installing head To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20191016172608.b45d9da4.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2019 16:52:02 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2019 15:52:22 -0000 On 16/10/2019 16:35, Andrea Venturoli wrote: > Probably my question should have been clearer: is it possible to move > from 12.0 (freshly installed) to HEAD directly *now* (or possibly after > "waiting a little")? > Or *must* I go through STABLE? > Compiling takes a lot of time and doing it twice takes two lots :) This should be possible in theory, but maybe not in practice. You should always be able to upgrade from the last release on one branch to the first release on the next. Except, of course, there is no 13.0 release just now. HEAD is the closest thing to 13.0 release you can get at the moment, and a source level upgrade from 12.0-RELEASE should probably work. If it doesn't, that's technically a bug and should be reported so it can be fixed. Mind you, 12.1 is really close to being out (due 4th Nov) so the response may well be 'please try 12.1-RELEASE when it is available'. If what you want is a HEAD system with least faff, then installing one of the 13-CURRENT snapshots (https://www.freebsd.org/snapshots/ as pointed out by Yasuhiro KIMURA) and upgrading from there is your best bet. Cheers, Matthew