From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 9 03:55:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A7EF16A418 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 03:55:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A0C713C45B for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 03:55:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDESK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id m193tqd1090109; Fri, 8 Feb 2008 19:55:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: , "User Questions" Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 19:57:31 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 In-Reply-To: <539c60b90802071054q7307d3f3h46681cc4da1490b0@mail.gmail.com> Importance: Normal X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Fri, 08 Feb 2008 19:55:53 -0800 (PST) Cc: Subject: RE: brand-new DVD drives less reliable than crappy old player - fix? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 03:55:54 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Steve Franks > Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 10:55 AM > To: User Questions > Subject: brand-new DVD drives less reliable than crappy old player - > fix? > > > I have a bunch of disks that will play fine in my laptop and TV, but > not in my freebsd system with a new-ish NEC drive. Figured it was the > drive, so I got a new pioneer, same issue - scratch somewhere that > causes no hiccup on other players makes it tank. I can't even cp or > rsync data off them, and these are only minor scratches. Is there > anything tunable, or ways to keep rsync or cp going after an error? > I get 100MB of the last GB file. Most annoying. I know you usually > want cp to fail if there's read errors, but this is one instance where > you'd like it to skip and keep going - I assume that's what my dvd > player does. These are not commercial disks, so I can't just go out > and buy a new one, and I was too stupid to make backups, so I have a > vested interest in a workaround. > The newer drives turn the disk faster, so of course there is less time the laser light is shining on the spot where the data is, and if a scratch has damaged that spot then optically the bit is not fully 1 way or fully the other, so the voltage out from the laser's eye is going to be closer to the "undefined" range. What is coming out of the laser's eye is effectively a "dirty" square wave. I think the developers of the faster drives decided to reduce the sampling window that they look for a logic high or a logic low, so they can sample the bit closer to the center of the high or low, and also since the sample time is lower, they make the circuit less tolerant of bits that are a little less "high" or a little less "low" coming out of the laser's eye. Ted