Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 16:33:57 -0700 From: Kevin Oberman <kob6558@gmail.com> To: Claude Buisson <clbuisson@orange.fr> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Jakub Lach <jakub_lach@mailplus.pl> Subject: Re: FreeBSD 10-CURRENT and 9-STABLE snapshots Message-ID: <CAN6yY1v0CHXz-FE=1OZmTvY4T5SmSX5zLvrzL1PzWGMeLSmTHg@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <5075AA96.6050101@orange.fr> References: <50717D35.7040106@affle.com> <1349727367645-5750424.post@n5.nabble.com> <50754E24.4040903@orange.fr> <1349873186577-5750838.post@n5.nabble.com> <5075AA96.6050101@orange.fr>
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On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:04 AM, Claude Buisson <clbuisson@orange.fr> wrote: > On 10/10/2012 14:46, Jakub Lach wrote: >> >> "Any questions and suggestions are welcome. Contact hrs@FreeBSD.org." >> >> But good catch, if your reasoning is indeed correct. >> > Honestly, my message was also a test about the current state of the svn to > cvs > gateway. Is it down without nobody taking care ? or have it been killed > without > a proper announcement ? > > I have migrated to svn, and I "enjoy" the following "benefits": > > - I had to install a complete VCS I have no (other) need of, Unfortunate, but not hugely significant (Just a bit of disk space). > - compared to cvsup, the svn update logs are too terse, and need to be > sorted, Pipe the output into sort or write a script in your favorite language to do what you want with the output. I do the latter. Script took 15 or 20 minutes to write and test. > - the response times of svnweb.freebsd.org are nearly unbearable, at least > from > my small european village, Can't comment since I'll admit that I am pretty close to the source. I certainly expect more mirrors to appear fairly soon. Two is not enough. And svnweb.freebsd.org is not the best place to go from Europe. Set it to use svn://svn0.us-east.freebsd.org and things should improve. (Actually, snvweb is not a good place for anyone to go. It is the web server for svn, but is not the direct source. us-west and us-east are. > - the disk usage more than doubled, but GBytes are cheap as say those who do > not pay with their own wallet, > - my backups take now a too loooonnnggg time svn should add about 85% to 100% to the storage required. My /usr/src for 9-stable went from about .9G to about 1.8G. Certainly csup used less space for its metadata, but I don't see this as a huge issue. And I do pay from my own wallet. I have a 750 GB system disk on this system and adding 1G is just not that big a deal. If you are seeing substantially more spec uded, sounds like something is wrong. I am assuming that you are NOT mirroring the archive. That would be like mirroring CVS, not using csup and would use LOT more space. As to backup time, it should be about proportional to the size of the backup, so adding 1G should increase backup time by less than a minute assuming a modern, local disk as the backup device. And, since you can download the source and ports trees any time you want, it's really not necessary to back it up, but many backup systems may limit the ability to not back it up. I do back up mine, though I could exclude it. > Perharps des@ svnsup project will succeed but there not seems to be much > activity. > > As an addon, according to lists.freebsd.org, svn-ports have not been updated > since more than a day... >> And for the record, they are NOT official snapshots. > > > I know, but: > > - there are no more "official snapshots" on freebsd.org > - anybody enquiring about it on the lists is directed to allbsd.org > - the recently created snapshots.glenbarber.us is much more limited > > Claude Buisson > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer E-mail: kob6558@gmail.com
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