From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 4 02:42:42 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 432E5106566C; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 02:42:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kevlo@kevlo.org) Received: from ns.kevlo.org (kevlo.org [220.128.136.52]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6749E8FC08; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 02:42:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (kevlo@kevlo.org [220.128.136.52]) by ns.kevlo.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id pA42TlFQ021952; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 10:29:47 +0800 (CST) Message-ID: <1320373787.2329.1.camel@nsl> From: Kevin Lo To: Arnaud Lacombe Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2011 10:29:47 +0800 In-Reply-To: References: <20111103092222.GN37036@e-new.0x20.net> <20111103155802.7bfc1df0.ray@freebsd.org> <20111104004007.GA74831@dereel.lemis.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.2.0- Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: Greg 'groggy' Lehey , Nate Dobbs , Aleksandr Rybalko , hackers@freebsd.org, Lars Engels Subject: Re: Porting FreeBSD to Raspberry Pi X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2011 02:42:42 -0000 Arnaud Lacombe wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 8:40 PM, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > > On Thursday, 3 November 2011 at 11:33:25 -0400, Arnaud Lacombe wrote: > >> [Please do not top-post.] > > > > Please trim messages. > > > >> On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Nate Dobbs wrote: > >>> 10 year old core or not, the ARM is the worlds most widely used processor; > >>> > >> Please read what I said correctly, I said "this ARM11 is obsolete" > >> (even if still used, for sure) ... > > > > Clearly price is an issue for this device. What's so bad about ARM11 > > that it shouldn't be used? > > > If you read my original comment, I did point out the $25 price tag was > pretty much the only interesting thing. Now, what it has been designed > for, multimedia, is going to be handled by a closed-source binary blob > without datasheet, so let me turn back the question: what do you > expect doing with it ? Agreed. I'll always prefer a $150 device with useful documentation over a $25 toy which may or may not work depending upon the phase of the moon. > >From my point of view, I would be more interested into bringing up > FreeBSD on ARMv7 (ie. Cortex A[89]), rather than any previous, but the > effort is clearly not the same. > > - Arnaud Kevin