From owner-freebsd-current Wed Apr 14 5:26:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from janus.syracuse.net (janus.syracuse.net [205.232.47.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09B1C14F75 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 05:26:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from green@unixhelp.org) Received: from localhost (green@localhost) by janus.syracuse.net (8.9.2/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA72570; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 08:20:16 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 08:20:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Feldman X-Sender: green@janus.syracuse.net To: Poul-Henning Kamp Cc: mi@aldan.algebra.com, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: swap-related problems In-Reply-To: <366.924075434@critter.freebsd.dk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 14 Apr 1999, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message <199904132245.SAA93415@misha.cisco.com>, Mikhail Teterin writes: > >Poul-Henning Kamp once wrote: > > >Well, this is just an implementation detail, is not it? I don't > >mean to critisize, or anything, but such thing as "no available > >memory" is a fairly intuitive... Coming down, again, the malloc > >should return a usable memory if available and NULL if it's not. > >Is not this a "natural" semantics? Why can a program die because > >_another_ program ate up all the rest of the memory? > > You know, this strikes me about as productive a discussion as the > "split infinitive should be outlawed by style(9)" we have every > so often. > > Very very fundamental to UNIX philosophy is the maxim that it is > roots responsibility to configure the system right. > > FreeBSD will defend itself against misconfigurations as best it > can, this includes shooting processes down when things get too > squeezy. > > Think of it as self-defence. > > The real problem is that you system isn't configured for what you > use it for. Fine. Let's have a kernel option for it, because a LOT of us want the old functionality back, and yes it _WAS_ there before. > > -- > Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member > phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." > FreeBSD -- It will take a long time before progress goes too far! > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > Brian Feldman _ __ ___ ____ ___ ___ ___ green@unixhelp.org _ __ ___ | _ ) __| \ FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! _ __ | _ \__ \ |) | http://www.freebsd.org _ |___/___/___/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message