From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 11 06:41:37 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4F2416A4CE for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2005 06:41:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DE0643D48 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2005 06:41:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j2B6fTb71152; Thu, 10 Mar 2005 22:41:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Doug Hardie" , "FreeBSD Questions" Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 22:41:21 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <577aeb585de8853de552772d76cb2a96@lafn.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Importance: Normal Subject: RE: how to deal with spam for good? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 06:41:37 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Doug Hardie > Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 10:40 AM > To: FreeBSD Questions > Subject: Re: how to deal with spam for good? > > > > On Mar 10, 2005, at 01:49, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > The only long term solution that is going to work is modding the > > DNS records to designate an official SMTP server for each > domain, such > > a plan has been in the works for a while among the standard bodies > > that know what they are doing. > > SPF is only going to address one form of spam distribution. > Unfortunately it does nothing for the spammers who get their > own domain > and establish their own SPF records. They can continue to > spam away at > will. Likewise SPF will not close any of the open relays run by the > organizations that are pushing SPF. Those will continue to forward > spam like they do today. In which case they will get blacklisted and that is that. If your running an ISP you need to start using the blacklist servers. We put all our own customers on notice years ago. A few didn't like it and ended up running their own mailservers, which I am sure gets lots of good spam for them to wade through. Ted