From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 3 17:52:20 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AFDB16A419 for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2007 17:52:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remko@FreeBSD.org) Received: from galain.elvandar.org (galain.elvandar.org [217.148.169.56]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDDCF13C45A for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2007 17:52:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remko@FreeBSD.org) Received: from evilcoder.xs4all.nl ([195.64.94.120] helo=elvandar.local) by galain.elvandar.org with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IzFSr-0006ym-Ti; Mon, 03 Dec 2007 18:52:17 +0100 Message-ID: <47544272.6040904@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2007 18:52:50 +0100 From: Remko Lodder User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Aryeh M. Friedman" , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <200712030308.32301.david@vizion2000.net> <3BC04A18-86CD-4A93-831A-691EBD8D4A43@FreeBSD.org> <47543109.3050303@gmail.com> <7957A7E2-3ADA-4BD5-934C-F10A1F08F72F@FreeBSD.org> <47544020.5090605@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <47544020.5090605@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: [RFC/P] Port System Re-Engineering X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2007 17:52:20 -0000 Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: > Ade Lovett wrote: > > > Then the community needs to make up it's mind because I have been > criticized for making a wiki for a similar issue (SATA issues on > ICH9(R)).... You do sound like Marie Antonetta. For the time being > as far I can tell the consensus is to keep most things on mailing > lists (not my choice). You missed the whole point there (a couple of times already :(), The point with that thread was that you were looking for the solution of a ATA driver thingy etc, which does not need to have a Wiki for it because you need to discuss with the clueful people out there. Starting a totally new project with new foundations etc DOES require such a Wiki because you can easily outline your ideas / requirements there and allow you and others to participate to generate code etc. As I stated a couple of times before (perhaps hiddenly), please try to research a bit more and -read- what is being told. Then sleep a day over the issue and THEN email the rest to see what they think; you are quite ambitious, which is appreciated, or at least I think that there should be room for ambition all the time, but you are using it the wrong way, causing people to ignore you (high sound / noise ratio) and there goes the ambition, "lost" in space. Dont do that to yourself or the project. Thanks. remko -- /"\ Best regards, | remko@FreeBSD.org \ / Remko Lodder | remko@EFnet X http://www.evilcoder.org/ | / \ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Against HTML Mail and News