From owner-freebsd-current Thu Apr 20 09:38:04 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id JAA01994 for current-outgoing; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 09:38:04 -0700 Received: from tcsi.tcs.com (tcsi.tcs.com [137.134.41.11]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id JAA01988 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 09:38:04 -0700 Received: from phact.tcs.com (phact.tcs.com [137.134.41.99]) by tcsi.tcs.com (8.6.10/8.6.10) with ESMTP id JAA23958; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 09:36:23 -0700 Received: from cozumel.tcs.com (cozumel.tcs.com [137.134.104.12]) by phact.tcs.com (8.6.10/8.6.10) with ESMTP id JAA06158; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 09:36:21 -0700 From: Douglas Ambrisko Received: (ambrisko@localhost) by cozumel.tcs.com (8.6.10/8.6.10) id JAA05934; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 09:36:20 -0700 Message-Id: <199504201636.JAA05934@cozumel.tcs.com> Subject: Re: wcarchive down To: gpalmer@freefall.cdrom.com (Gary Palmer) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 09:36:20 -0700 (PDT) Cc: rcarter@geli.com, davidg@Root.COM, current@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <19451.798358087@freefall.cdrom.com> from "Gary Palmer" at Apr 19, 95 11:08:07 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1534 Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Gary Palmer writes: | | In message <199504200518.WAA03907@geli.clusternet>, "Russell L. Carter" writes: | >This is a helluva commitment to FreeBSD, might be messy to begin with but | >will likely root out many of those hard to find bugs right quick, with long | >term benefits for the community. | | And in the meantime, every time wcarchive goes down, Walnut Creek's name | get's slightly muddier. We were origionally waiting for 2.1 to come out, and | be properly tested, etc, etc, before even thinking of touching wcarchive, | but it spamming it's /dev/*sd* entries well enough so that we can't even | re-mount the root filesystem read-write kinda forced our hands. | | Yes, it'll force a lot of obscure bugs into the open, but debugging wcarchive | isn't easy as we don't normally have any console access... ----------------------------------------- Gee, sounds like time to use the new serial console mode. I've been using it on my server and it works great. I have it setup so I can tip into it to grab the console etc, as such it now lives in my closet without a monitor or keyboard. Another thing you can use DTR from you tip host to trigger a hard reset to it incase you need to reset it remotely. To do this it just requires a diode and maybe a couple of resistors. It works great. This also makes for a great debugging environment (build your kernel on your fast work-station, boot the kernel from the network and test it through the serial console) Now you can work from anywhere. Doug A.