From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Jul 18 09:51:25 1995 Return-Path: hackers-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id JAA29858 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jul 1995 09:51:25 -0700 Received: from p54c.spnet.com (p54c.spnet.com [204.156.130.11]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id JAA29851 for ; Tue, 18 Jul 1995 09:51:20 -0700 Received: from localhost.spnet.com (localhost.spnet.com [127.0.0.1]) by p54c.spnet.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA05380; Tue, 18 Jul 1995 09:51:11 -0700 Message-Id: <199507181651.JAA05380@p54c.spnet.com> X-Authentication-Warning: p54c.spnet.com: Host localhost.spnet.com didn't use HELO protocol To: hackers@freebsd.org cc: elh@spnet.com Subject: FreeBSD Killer Apps (was Re: TCL vs...) Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 09:51:11 -0700 From: Ed Hudson Sender: hackers-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk howdy. i'm not certain this is appropriate for this news group... i build ic cad applications (original work), and use FreeBSD as my primary development platform... sadly, all of my distributions (sales) are to IRIX and SunOS platforms (to date)... i'm trying to talk a major cad vendor into making their primary product available under FreeBSD... the answer is (so far) 'when we can get FlexLM support, then maybe we'll proceed...' FlexLM is a license manager/library application that most IC cad vendors use. as such, it maybe a critical 'sub-application' i know of at least one vlsi design startup here in silicon valley that uses NetBSD for running significant logic simulation regressions on a large array of pentia's (private verilog2c) (i know of a couple of other startups considering a similar methodology - i'm trying to steer them to FreeBSD). i know of several people using FreeBSD boxes as X-terminals for isdn links to their work places (again, sadly, i know more people using linux for this, so far... but hope this will change as people try to actually run local compiles instead of just X - they'll want a more SunOS like environment) FreeBSD is just missing a couple of key applications to be generally usefull as an ic-development environment commercially (ie, commercial use of public domain, or near-public-domain (university) (eg, spice3) tools). in particular, a good public-domain verilog is needed the most (i understand that such an effort is underway at stanford?) for many of the univeristy tools, ports exist, but there's no central distribution available. for many of these university tools in the USA, such as spice3, there are hold-over export restrictions that are about as bad as DES. -elh