From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Jun 18 9:15:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from supernova.dimensional.com (supernova.dimensional.com [206.124.0.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76F5F37B401 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 09:15:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from element@Dim.com) Received: from smtp.dimensional.com (64-204-110-66.client.dsl.net [64.204.110.66]) by supernova.dimensional.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id f5IGEjs03281; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 10:14:45 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200106181614.f5IGEjs03281@supernova.dimensional.com> X-Mailer: Ultrafunk Popcorn release 1.04 (13.Jan.2001) X-URL: http://www.ultrafunk.com/products/popcorn Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 10:11:11 -0700 (Mountain Standard Time) From: Adam To: jkh@osd.bsdi.com Cc: hackers@Freebsd.org Subject: Re: Query: How to tell if Microsoft is using BSD TCP/IP code? Organization: NA Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm not sure if this will help or not but Winsock.h, Winsock2.h, and Ws2spi.h which are shipped with visual studio 6 include the following in the header: * This file includes parts which are Copyright (c) 1982-1986 Regents * of the University of California. All rights reserved. The * Berkeley Software License Agreement specifies the terms and * conditions for redistribution. */ >http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/psdk/winsock/apistart_9g1e.htm mentions >BSD, not sure if is direct enough. > >I'm downloading the SDK right now so I can grepmonkey through the latest >and greatest headers, etc. > >HTH > >-- >[ Joseph Mallett ] [ http://srcsys.org ] >[ xMach Core Team xMach: Proactively Unbloated Microkernel BSD ] >[ FreeBSD, NetBSD, & xMach User; (Obj)C(++) Coder ] [ http://xMach.org ] > >On Fri, 15 Jun 2001, Joseph A. Mallett wrote: > >> Do you happen to have any of their Winsock propoganda handy (specifically >> developer materials or winsock.h header file)? I know for a fact that they >> have said repetedly that some of it was taken directly from Berkely. I'm >> just not sure where... I'm going to start digging through my stuff to see >> if I can find anything. >> >> -- >> [ Joseph Mallett ] [ http://srcsys.org ] >> [ xMach Core Team xMach: Proactively Unbloated Microkernel BSD ] >> [ FreeBSD, NetBSD, & xMach User; (Obj)C(++) Coder ] [ http://xMach.org ] >> >> On Fri, 15 Jun 2001, Jordan Hubbard wrote: >> >> > I've had several marketing types approach me recently for details as >> > to whether or not Microsoft was using the BSD TCP/IP stack and/or user >> > utilities, and though it's always been "common knowledge" in the >> > community that they were, when I set about to "prove" it I found it to >> > be less easy than I'd thought. I've strings'd various binaries and >> > DLLs in my copy of Windows 98 but have yet to find anything resembling >> > proof. Does anyone out there have any details or discovery techniques >> > for confirming or disproving this assertion either way? It would be >> > very useful (for us) from a PR standpoint to know. >> > >> > Thanks! >> > >> > - Jordan >> > >> > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message >> > >> >> >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message >> > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message