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Message-ID: <20181102120425.1eac52a6.freebsd.ed.lists@sumeritec.com> In-Reply-To: <96848c4e433f9c28a017bc467d10b232@mail-on.us> References: <032dec6a280136b4b80d77715b0b1b17@mail-on.us> <441037E6-67AD-49A9-9151-3F617A7AE1AE@fjl.co.uk> <96848c4e433f9c28a017bc467d10b232@mail-on.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OutGoing-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 X-AuthUser: freebsd.ed.lists@sumeritec.com X-Originating-IP: 153.92.8.106 X-Spampanel-Domain: out.niagahoster.com X-Spampanel-Username: niaga Authentication-Results: antispamcloud.com; auth=pass (login) smtp.auth=niaga@out.niagahoster.com X-Spampanel-Outgoing-Class: unsure X-Spampanel-Outgoing-Evidence: Combined (0.33) X-Recommended-Action: accept X-Filter-ID: EX5BVjFpneJeBchSMxfU5hgi3EreTnrGtPkjI834S0d602E9L7XzfQH6nu9C/Fh9KJzpNe6xgvOx q3u0UDjvO+EaZ0GbijHxRcz4oP8/IcLrXqzbCjEbfJcqXRzelCwdJYatjgJunsRNfMQFfYnhxhIm J5L8JocZ7jvPcgMkCMV3VX5A48T6P4xubSjFh0hwl7WsDxTYdI14JuFmYmLrCXdVfkDjxPo/jG5t KMWHSHC+ISrFe72eyO6n5th9UY3qpE0KurALx3gZEUL+kkQtfNfwYErb4UK8xFf97EoF4gz1QeyV xVRA9dztHGwWW2LHO8DwfkFdMffakKgrcPlJVeu7dvKRLva/AIIO8eOYXd4gEYh/T53XX75pHgh4 pvdG6kWj/oTmSjq0cPzQCt37wMIzUpqvZq13ZdV+Dz2qnPrSnpRQJQZtOYs+WpieyK5FYxCXQdz/ yY6aVFc655KhQLMwcEc3vNONPjeXjGqV6cX/H4cUFSfpzkoM4YQhwp+FboZD5vPFe84pJQGk5dfb FPdfcXgLzsY3kBHC+ZTZl3RnfVPTqI4dkGNDDD1o0bE1+PPsFj6ib/rQkXcCYXtbCsB9K/tfe8pL mJg0fcGy9gwRLqjTJeBPrTCjLL/wN7uMRUcRfS0hzbGRZdtpa0UZ/x9JJ5TIDkE1afsdX6NhD5se Ap+VO4oFSk8mBIBXo2BFn1XwgQVNqOZrXojH570PbJjbEksSRvq4Ne9nSwTkw0MHmFDqewO9xyOq CYO8P1aH5QN1pbH809GVckHaDoCpXXo4cWULbQ7n4oHCN8vAOSyzZP4WsPyMiNT0QIPYGQDkmITc ejG7wMdK1E502JTuVj8f4c9vM4DS96zDbei4qnRy2DNwOgV373pfDhBQ21Odu5oPzYTjEFnVmuJd 2kIIOrAxbi1c8P9QQRXgktvJsTJU8juKnz9wuBfd0E2e+rEPGJdimYZGouioJWKkMaVHGrOzr+Hl BNv4rXAGTFZjslUYQV5S2tL01oGmO4has73rVGkGolmtL78gKYrUH0FYKWmLg7MtquaU1JUdAqYs iGzeYbKNKdqhCvbyyx+iMF8Pa6P2ogp9kacJnWQ52TaV/A== X-Report-Abuse-To: spam@quarantine1.antispamcloud.com X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2018 05:59:37 -0000 Hi, On Thu, 01 Nov 2018 06:45:59 -0700 spamless@mail-on.us wrote: > On 2018-11-01 03:59, Frank Leonhardt (M) wrote: > > On 1 November 2018 05:14:35 GMT+00:00, spamless@mail-on.us wrote: > >> Hi all, > >> I picked out, and put together some hardware for a new FreeBSD > >> powered box. I chose a WD blue drive I knew was pretty zippy. > >> But I was quite disappointed to discover that FreeBSD wouldn't > >> support it @6Gb. > >> The following output from dmesg(8): > >> GEOM: new disk ada0 > >> ada0: ACS-3 ATA SATA 3.x device > >> ada0: Serial Number WD-WCC6Y3CJCTDC > >> ada0: 300.000MB/s transfers (SATA 2.x, UDMA6, PIO 8192bytes) > >> ada0: Command Queueing enabled > >> ada0: 953869MB (1953525168 512 byte sectors) > >> > >> My hardware supports it; both drive, and controller. Yet for > >> some reason FreeBSD will only *acknowledge* the capabilities. > >> Do I need to impose some quirk, or something. > >> > >> Thanks! > > > > That is saying it will do transfers at 300 Megabytes/second on the > > interface. You'll be lucky to get that from a WD desktop drive due > > to mechanical limitations. WD blues at 1Tb tend to do 125-150MBps > > tops, and the range released a couple of years back (2015?) seem > > slower than the previous generation, although the spindle speeds > > vary. > > > > 6G vs. 3G is only interesting talking to silicone drives or a SATA > > expander. > > > > But an interesting question - why does it say SATA2 instead of > > SATA3? > > Thanks for your reply, Frank! > Be that as it may. As platters go. I bought this 1Tb WD blue, because > all > the stats for it indicated it was faster that all the major > competitors, and interestingly, faster than their "high-end" Black > counterpart. I also > bought it, because it was quieter than all the others. > That said; given that the port it runs off of, and the drive is truly > a Sata 3 (3.1). Why won't FreeBSD treat it as such. Why does it > penalize the drive? > I have another Sata 3 drive on the second Sata 3 port, that FreeBSD > actually treats as what it is: > ada1 at ahcich1 bus 0 scbus1 target 0 lun 0 > ada1: ACS-2 ATA SATA 3.x device > ada1: Serial Number W1F55VT9 > ada1: 600.000MB/s transfers (SATA 3.x, UDMA6, PIO 8192bytes) > ada1: Command Queueing enabled > ada1: 2861588MB (5860533168 512 byte sectors) > ada1: quirks=0x1<4K> > > note the "quirks" - is that good, or bad? > > In the end, it appears that I have to purchase a slower rated (Sata > 3) drive > to get FreeBSD to treat it as a Sata 3 drive? It makes no sense to > me. Which > is why I came here; in hopes of finding out *why* it appears as it > does. :) > > Thanks again, Frank! > > Oh! In case it matters; this is on 12 (CURRENT) > forget about the marketing bullshit. You might have a very basic problem: the cable. Just change cables randomly. If you see then changes on a drive, you have to expect that there is a problem with the cable. Erich