From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon May 12 12:25:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA29662 for hackers-outgoing; Mon, 12 May 1997 12:25:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA29655 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 12:25:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id MAA08071; Mon, 12 May 1997 12:18:29 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199705121918.MAA08071@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: if_de.c ???? To: dennis@etinc.com (dennis) Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 12:18:29 -0700 (MST) Cc: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19970512101113.00bac288@etinc.com> from "dennis" at May 12, 97 10:11:16 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Certain things you're just not gonna get...so deal with it. Do you > think that SMC is gonna build another card with DEC-like chip when > anyone with a $500. layout program can clone the board and steal > their market? Its getting so easy to clone hardware, particularly > with single chip solutions, that you're going to see big vendors > refuse to use parts that have public specs...like you said, you > gotta pay the bills, and it doesnt pay to build hardware with > readily available hardware with public specs. Actually, you seem to be complaining about the fact that using parts with public specifications commoditizes the hardware. This is true, but it's not a bad thing. After all, many companies make lots of money selling commodity items. Like kitchen utensils. I think as more and more ASIC parts get out there, the applications to which they are targeted must *inevitably* become commoditized. The unit production cost is the thing, and SMC is going to have a lower unit production cost than "Joe Schmoe" because of quantity price breaks from their vendors, and economies of scale on production. If you think DEC isn't going to sell those specs to "Joe Schmoe" in order to protect SMC's market, then you have another thing coming. Regards, Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers.