From owner-svn-ports-head@freebsd.org Wed Sep 14 19:44:11 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-ports-head@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67497BDA9BE; Wed, 14 Sep 2016 19:44:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bdrewery@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206c::16:87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A7431C40; Wed, 14 Sep 2016 19:44:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bdrewery@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail.xzibition.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 433D01FFE; Wed, 14 Sep 2016 19:44:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bdrewery@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail.xzibition.com (localhost [172.31.3.2]) by mail.xzibition.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 085CA22B24; Wed, 14 Sep 2016 19:44:11 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail.xzibition.com Received: from mail.xzibition.com ([172.31.3.2]) by mail.xzibition.com (mail.xzibition.com [172.31.3.2]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with LMTP id XZjrWS2XqX7M; Wed, 14 Sep 2016 19:44:08 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: svn commit: r422154 - head/misc/fortune_strfile DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.9.2 mail.xzibition.com BE02A22B1D To: marino@freebsd.org, ports-committers@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, svn-ports-head@freebsd.org References: <201609141925.u8EJPJb8077087@repo.freebsd.org> <2be2dfc7-2be7-aaf3-7510-58279dea9e37@marino.st> From: Bryan Drewery Organization: FreeBSD Message-ID: Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2016 12:44:06 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2be2dfc7-2be7-aaf3-7510-58279dea9e37@marino.st> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="emG2rOEqtsG9x0fvgrKJwpB6pxExPDw9S" X-BeenThere: svn-ports-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the ports tree for head List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2016 19:44:11 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --emG2rOEqtsG9x0fvgrKJwpB6pxExPDw9S Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="ucHSeIkhxVWJpa6xr5Ii32TBekF3fcswp"; protected-headers="v1" From: Bryan Drewery To: marino@freebsd.org, ports-committers@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, svn-ports-head@freebsd.org Message-ID: Subject: Re: svn commit: r422154 - head/misc/fortune_strfile References: <201609141925.u8EJPJb8077087@repo.freebsd.org> <2be2dfc7-2be7-aaf3-7510-58279dea9e37@marino.st> In-Reply-To: <2be2dfc7-2be7-aaf3-7510-58279dea9e37@marino.st> --ucHSeIkhxVWJpa6xr5Ii32TBekF3fcswp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 9/14/16 12:28 PM, John Marino wrote: > On 9/14/2016 14:25, Bryan Drewery wrote: >> Author: bdrewery >> Date: Wed Sep 14 19:25:19 2016 >> New Revision: 422154 >> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/ports/422154 >> >> Log: >> Mark deprecated as it has no maintainer and is already in base. >> >> With hat: portmgr >> >=20 >=20 > Really? >=20 > Very mature and classy. > I solved a problem and you're flexing muscles. >=20 > Are all portmanagers on board with this? >=20 > John >=20 > P.S. If you want, I'll get into a commit war and take it back. You'll = win. >=20 Ports need maintainers. It is standard practice to deprecate ports without a maintainer, though usually after a much longer time frame. We can either do this right away or let this rot for that period and waste time on the package build cluster. Portmgr's who have weighed in on this are in agreement that the port never should have been committing and dropped like it was, and there is growing consensus that it should just be deleted. So I've marked it deprecated. It's also questionable why we need this at all since it is in base already and is not receiving updates. If we had a packaged base system it would perhaps make sense to have a port, but we're not there yet. I have not seen any valid justification for the port in the first place. Also, there are no "laws" here except for the CoC. There are only conventions and guidelines, and portmgr has the ultimate say over ports as a whole. This clearly was committed/dropped against the spirit of the conventions, regardless of any pedantic reading of any guideline. --=20 Regards, Bryan Drewery --ucHSeIkhxVWJpa6xr5Ii32TBekF3fcswp-- --emG2rOEqtsG9x0fvgrKJwpB6pxExPDw9S Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJX2aiHAAoJEDXXcbtuRpfP4HQIAKLvt/mWDp/nJiElYSR3YTlW k0UrXKCVlPC/cNiPMi2Yaiz5ajCxJccZlOFjCIWXd8hPlywJK14Nw0j1vx8JL5yW VbXrmZxmcIGLwSI8g8FnT0i4MillxwqJtYWwVbELBIKj/zgMqFu6/Ulcp0IhDpXi ZsLNg6D5zIAq4Q5NJ+2euqql3WpMbwPKpIsMytL09WzrJjRx72b5Q5x8fSbpoDie PcTegx6A9grbkKBtVk/MRB4jRezWQeK+p5CW0/qJorU7pZyYutQv/dibKINn0RRk DOV8uO22S+KZGuYiOisobA4AOnZnAuEhZFdpW1/Qu7shZJn6AmZoVmWXqo4MuVM= =MMc8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --emG2rOEqtsG9x0fvgrKJwpB6pxExPDw9S--