From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 7 11:55:43 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA4EA16A4CE for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 11:55:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-1.mail.amis.net (out-1.mail.amis.net [212.18.32.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34FB443FAF for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 11:55:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from blaz@si.FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (in-1.mail.amis.net [212.18.32.15]) by out-1.mail.amis.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC8999BEE; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 20:55:40 +0100 (CET) Received: from in-1.mail.amis.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (in-1.mail.amis.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 49514-02; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 20:55:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from titanic.medinet.si (titanic.medinet.si [212.18.42.5]) by in-1.mail.amis.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CC942C17A1; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 20:55:39 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 20:55:39 +0100 (CET) From: Blaz Zupan X-X-Sender: blaz@titanic.medinet.si To: Mathew Kanner In-Reply-To: <20031207192947.GA98718@cnd.mcgill.ca> Message-ID: <20031207204648.W65703@titanic.medinet.si> References: <20031207180022.B63497@titanic.medinet.si> <20031207192947.GA98718@cnd.mcgill.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at amis.net cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Reward for fixing keyboard support in FreeBSD, apply within X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2003 19:55:43 -0000 > I'm curious as to the output of lsdev from the loader. Though > I doubt I can help you. I'll mail it to you tomorrow when I'm at the office. > You could stick a kbdcontrol -k /dev/kbd2 in rc.local or > something similiar. Or you could try (warning, wild guess) the > following in the boot loader > > set hint.sc.2.at=isa > set hint.sc.2.flags=0x200 Sure, I'm using the kbdcontrol hack right now. But that's hardly a solution. I want to have FreeBSD fixed so that dirty workarounds like this are not needed. To even install FreeBSD on this box, you need to jump through hoops: - create a customized boot floppy without USB support - boot the customized floppy (slow) - install through the network - alternatively, setup a PXE boot with a custom kernel - complicated After installation you need to remotely login as your keyboard again won't work because a GENERIC kernel with USB will be installed. Then you add kbdcontrol -k /dev/kbd2 to your startup files. All this is extremely clumsy. What if FreeBSD crashes and you land in single user mode? You're screwed, because /etc/rc.local doesn't run. So you need to put it into your shells startup file. Clumsy. Errorprone. So - I want this fixed once and for all. I'm sure there already are and there will be more hardware like this and if FreeBSD wants to be a server operating system, it needs to support new hardware, not have more clumsy workarounds.